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Columbus Free Press

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110. This is Ohio

Mon Nov 5, 2012, 11:02 AM

Nov 2012

Busting John Husted will likely turn him not into a convict... but a lobbyist.

That wont stop us from doing our all however

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Really, enough of the handwringing and paranoia. TeamObama has tons of lawyers on the case. Enough. [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2012 OP

THANK YOU! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Nov 2012 #1

Amen! Blue Idaho Nov 2012 #2

What about those patches already in the voting machines. Are they going to monitor them too?..n/t monmouth Nov 2012 #3

You read my mind. Marmitist Nov 2012 #4

It's not paranoia if they're really after you duhneece Nov 2012 #7

yep, you see the problem. 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #6

Check it out. proverbialwisdom Nov 2012 #69

thanks for that info. n/t 2pooped2pop Nov 2012 #77

you assume it is not possible to examine code and find the problem nini Nov 2012 #79

You know, can the finger wagging and take the hand off the hip.... Raster Nov 2012 #5

+1 Thank you. nt JudyM Nov 2012 #19

Too true. go west young man Nov 2012 #28

Considering what the Ohio Sec of State just did I think we have a problem. go west young man Nov 2012 #31

Hell, most people on this board don't even know there were riots and general unrest in OHIO.... Raster Nov 2012 #34

That was then. This is now. Time to grow a spine, project strength, & act like a WINNER. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #89

Grow a spine? Raster Nov 2012 #102

Hasn't helped when it comes to equal access to the polls... polichick Nov 2012 #8

Yeah, where have they been hiding all this time while supression has been ongoing? Coyotl Nov 2012 #9

Barking orders to other posters is easier than looking at the reality... polichick Nov 2012 #10

So, what do you think this ambiguous reality is? Coyotl Nov 2012 #11

The op is doing the barking - I agree with you... polichick Nov 2012 #13

I am SO TIRED of "they will steal it" threads. Makes us look insane. Logical Nov 2012 #12

Actually, they DID steal it in 2000 and 2004 - Dems were "insane"... polichick Nov 2012 #14

What happened in 2006 and 2008? D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #63

According to some researchers Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #64

Exactly. polichick Nov 2012 #72

I believe WHOLEHEARTEDLY there was fraud in 2008. The reason it was not successful was too many.... Raster Nov 2012 #74

Looks like your computational mathematician has a bunch more work to do... D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #113

2008, KKKarl Rove's pet programmer started to be investigated just a few days before diane in sf Nov 2012 #99

+1 D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #61

Learn from history... The Doctor. Nov 2012 #71

No solid evidence that OH was stolen in 04. Look, enough of the PARANOIA. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #91

Sorry, you are wrong! Raster Nov 2012 #104

Look up "Prima Facie", and "affidavit of sworn testimony". The Doctor. Nov 2012 #105

You'd think we'd have been sued for slander Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #106

And again I want to apologize for misreading your posts and THANK YOU and the Free Press Team... Raster Nov 2012 #108

This is Ohio Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #110

Actually what makes us look insane is to pretend that it isn't happening, against all good evidence. Raster Nov 2012 #75

Come Wednesday we will see how many cases we have of it. Logical Nov 2012 #80

RIGHT ! Be ready for shenanigans, yes. But this PARANOIA SHIT is RIDICULOUS. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #90

We have every reason to be gravely concerned. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #15

So go to your local Obama or Democratic headquarters and start making telephone calls. JDPriestly Nov 2012 #17

Because I'm concerned means I'm not doing my part? CrispyQ Nov 2012 #21

One of the reasons for volunteering in the GOTV effort is to remind Democrats JDPriestly Nov 2012 #87

Or maybe it's because the dems have not addressed the very serious issue of electronic voting. CrispyQ Nov 2012 #111

You're correct. We do have every reason to be gravely concerned. Texin Nov 2012 #52

SEND them here: Eleventh-Hour GOP Voter Suppression Could Swing Ohio (The Nation) Coyotl Nov 2012 #16

The paranoia ignores the real effort to steal the election gravity Nov 2012 #18

I agree; its important to separate the tactics they are demonsterably using... D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #65

There are two main differences between 2000/2004 and 2012. Jennicut Nov 2012 #20

I don't think the repug will steal it, but I think they will try. They have to. Raster Nov 2012 #22

Was KKKarl involved in the 2008 election? ailsagirl Nov 2012 #66

Oh yes. KKKarl was involved. He had his for-profit consultancy. Raster Nov 2012 #67

Damn that man!!!!!!! ailsagirl Nov 2012 #68

kkkarl slithered out of the same nixonian nest of vipers that beget atwater, among others. Raster Nov 2012 #70

Atwater was VILE ailsagirl Nov 2012 #78

That's right, GOTV. Action conquers fear. Those I know who are GOTV are confident. freshwest Nov 2012 #40

Right. Show some STRENGTH, CONFIDENCE, BACKBONE, and ACT LIKE WINNERS for a change. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #97

SPOT ON ! THANKS ! The handwringing and paranoia need to STOP. It is WASTED energy. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #93

I'm glad your attempt to steer the conversation away from GOP election trickery is being rebuffed. philly_bob Nov 2012 #23

The rethuglicans have to try. That is all they have. Raster Nov 2012 #25

2,500 lawers just in OHIO alone... GOBAMA! secondwind Nov 2012 #24

My Obama Landslide thread is the antidote to all that worrywart stuff johnlucas Nov 2012 #26

Thanks, but I think I'll keep hand-wringing anyway.................nft plethoro Nov 2012 #27

This line of thinking is pretty soundly debunked Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #29

Sorry, it gives a bit more hope and silver lining, but "solidly debunked"? I think not. Raster Nov 2012 #38

We dont say I told you so Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #49

Dude, already there. But please, don't act like electoral fraud is out of the realm of possibility. Raster Nov 2012 #51

As to the topic of voter suppression Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #50

So, please correct me if wrong, but aren't you somewhat intimating that you are speaking.... Raster Nov 2012 #53

I think you're misreading what CFP is saying. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #54

Thank you. If I am misreading, I stand corrected. I think there is everything to be.... Raster Nov 2012 #55

I think the strategy is to win without Ohio and Florida. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #56

Excuse my language: I cannot fucking believe that we are going through the same shit... Raster Nov 2012 #58

Perhaps you've missed the point Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #62

Democracy and fairness for one, democracy and fairness for all. Raster Nov 2012 #73

Yep. And he's going to need Ohio, Florida, VA, or CO allrevvedup Nov 2012 #88

Not just Ohio Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #57

Arrggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............ Raster Nov 2012 #59

Fraud is very rare. Yes, be READY for issues, but I am saying don't be PARANOID. Because that is RBInMaine Nov 2012 #92

And exactly how do lawyers monitor hidden tabulation software? SHRED Nov 2012 #30

I hope there are plenty of computer geeks who can tell when a patch is applied to software or votes judesedit Nov 2012 #32

Yep, we need both lawyers and computer geeks LeftInTX Nov 2012 #41

Prison anyone is a nice thing to say, BUT......... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #42

One thing a lot of people refuse to admit on EVoting is this time the media is on it.... Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2012 #33

A Democratic Poll Observer underthematrix Nov 2012 #35

Still not aware of the fact that the 2004 election was stolen? Check out Clinton Curtis testifying judesedit Nov 2012 #36

Ohio may depend on the efforts of a journalist who requested info under the FOIA act flamingdem Nov 2012 #37

Oh yeah. Lawyering up is going to help SO MUCH....... socialist_n_TN Nov 2012 #39

Can the paranoid defeatism please end. There really is a spine inside the human back you know. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #95

John Lucas's powerful thread here: freshwest Nov 2012 #43

I think with the many, many cases of justice not being served or even attempted, there is bloomington-lib Nov 2012 #44

Amen!!!!! skeewee08 Nov 2012 #45

thats the truth. DCBob Nov 2012 #46

Hope they are a hell of a lot smarter than the 10,000 Kerry had. pocoloco Nov 2012 #47

or more motivated or something nilram Nov 2012 #48

K&R D23MIURG23 Nov 2012 #60

if you think having lawyers on the case is enough, Doctor_J Nov 2012 #76

open your eyes reusrename Nov 2012 #81

Oh, fer fuck sakes, this is DU! We all specialize in handwringing. It would be fucking madinmaryland Nov 2012 #82

I've been here about 10 years. I remember the handwringing in 2004..."don't worry, the Kerry... Raster Nov 2012 #83

Showing STRENGTH and CONFIDENCE and acting like WINNERS would be a nice change of pace. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #94

I heard this on MSNBC today: Dem lawyers everywhere. lindysalsagal Nov 2012 #84

We were told the same thing in 2004. IDoMath Nov 2012 #85

No solid evidence of vote stealing. Kerry was behind a bit in all polls and predictive models. RBInMaine Nov 2012 #96

Except for the exit polls, and the EV predictions. allrevvedup Nov 2012 #98

There was tons of statistical evidence for vote stealing in Ohio in 2004. We followed it on DU diane in sf Nov 2012 #100

Thank you, and there you go with those pesky facts and figures... Raster Nov 2012 #103

Are you forgetting Michael Connell? TroyD Nov 2012 #109

updates Columbus Free Press Nov 2012 #86

Go Free Press Team, GO! Sue the bastard! Raster Nov 2012 #101

I've got my xanax ready Ineeda Nov 2012 #107

Yes. Exactly. n/t AverageJoe90 Nov 2012 #112