2016 Postmortem

puffy socks

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92. What baloney.

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:29 PM

Jun 2016

Democrats have pressed for years. The corporate media has helped the GOP and silenced the Dems ..strange how you all see this clearly with Bernie but not with Democrats.

Bernie's ideas aren't new. They aren't his ideas.
BERNIE hasnt gotten any of these goals accomplished ...why not?
Why hasn't BERNIE gotten his agenda legislated in 30 years? answer the question.

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Clinton is the nominee. But the Democratic Party should not just become Clinton Inc. [View all] Armstead Jun 2016 OP

Clinton is just one person. qdouble Jun 2016 #1

Both she and Sanders represent deep and bigger things Armstead Jun 2016 #3

Uh, luck has nothing to do with it. Odd how you want to discount some voters, Bernie did the same tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

Go ahead then. Ignore and dismiss and insult millions and millions. Armstead Jun 2016 #5

Yeah, go ahead and write in Bernie or stay home and not vote in November and see that works for ya tonyt53 Jun 2016 #10

Armstead speaks for ALL the millions of voters, didn't you know that? puffy socks Jun 2016 #14

So you speak for all voters too? Armstead Jun 2016 #66

I never even tried to imply I did. puffy socks Jun 2016 #70

Good Lord stop with the all or none ridiculousness. puffy socks Jun 2016 #4

I suggest a course in reading comprehension Armstead Jun 2016 #6

You cant even comprehend your own OP? puffy socks Jun 2016 #12

You think banks have become inherently too big and powerful? Armstead Jun 2016 #23

Yep I do puffy socks Jun 2016 #45

Neither do I and neither does Sanders Armstead Jun 2016 #52

oh please. puffy socks Jun 2016 #67

I could answer but haven't the time right now Armstead Jun 2016 #71

"Don't fight for clear liberal progressive principles." puffy socks Jun 2016 #80

Short answer Armstead Jun 2016 #85

What baloney. puffy socks Jun 2016 #92

I find it rather funny TimPlo Jun 2016 #26

Most Independents want Bernie, you are in the minority. Clinton Inc. I like that! Seeinghope Jun 2016 #38

You've spoken with all the other Independents, huh? puffy socks Jun 2016 #46

Yep! Seeinghope Jun 2016 #58

As many as 140,000,000 Americans may vote this November. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #7

If so.....What's the percentage that have come out for Clinton? 10% plus a few additional points? Armstead Jun 2016 #9

More than either Trump or Sanders. yallerdawg Jun 2016 #13

Maybe we can just have a super duper rally..and buy lots of yard signs! puffy socks Jun 2016 #49

You're absolutely right about the prospect of GOP intransigence. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #8

True Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #11

Odd you would say that. Beowulf Jun 2016 #16

.................. Armstead Jun 2016 #20

oh really? puffy socks Jun 2016 #50

Thomas Frank's Listen Liberal Beowulf Jun 2016 #84

More insults Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #72

I suppose you be insulted by what I wrote Beowulf Jun 2016 #93

I see the end result of the FBI investigation as the key. Beowulf Jun 2016 #15

No indictment fairy...no intent. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #73

You may be correct Beowulf Jun 2016 #81

The Presidential nominee gets control of the party firebrand80 Jun 2016 #17

There's control and there's control Armstead Jun 2016 #19

Hillary should get the same control Obama, Kerry and Gore got firebrand80 Jun 2016 #21

I'm talking about after the election and into the future Armstead Jun 2016 #27

But your OP said the result will be Trump winning, so nope.... You were posting about now and not bettyellen Jun 2016 #54

Both Armstead Jun 2016 #56

Interesting flip flop you're doing now. bettyellen Jun 2016 #87

Call it what you want Armstead Jun 2016 #89

Your OP was about before the GE, then you clarify you're talking about after the election.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #95

"it will be a Pyrrhic victory" - Yes, but they don't give a short-sighted shit demwing Jun 2016 #18

Yes, stand by your principles! yallerdawg Jun 2016 #22

Could you possibly be any more shallow? Armstead Jun 2016 #31

Warriors/Thunder Game 7 was a "campaign event"? yallerdawg Jun 2016 #41

Yeppers I do Armstead Jun 2016 #44

Amen. 840high Jun 2016 #83

Again, you are starting in a position outside of reality. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #24

Please explain the "zero accuracy" Armstead Jun 2016 #28

Sure. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #33

No it is a false premise that a vote for Clinton means support for Clinton Armstead Jun 2016 #43

Why do you keep speaking in absolutes? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #48

You also speak in absolutes...as do most here Armstead Jun 2016 #55

"But every post can't be a 500 page tome exploring the...." NCTraveler Jun 2016 #57

Once again....yawn....I am expressing my opinion. Armstead Jun 2016 #60

Apparently the majority don't want the specific change that Bernie calls for. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36

There is no democratic party anymore with clinton as nominee Robbins Jun 2016 #25

Clinton IS A PROGRESSIVE. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #32

CLinton is no progressive Robbins Jun 2016 #34

If you beieve that then obviously no facts can sway you. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #35

There are plenty of facts to support this Robbins Jun 2016 #39

She's a socially liberal, economically regressive, war hawk demwing Jun 2016 #91

Trump is what he is. Luck has nothing to do with it. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #29

BTW - Clinton may well become the nominee demwing Jun 2016 #30

Bernie seemed to think differently in 08. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #42

Don't be dishonest, that wasn't Bernie's position and you know it demwing Jun 2016 #74

Yes that WAS Bernie's position. And you know it. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #75

Tthe party is diverse and will remain so. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #37

It's always been the cat-herding party but.... Armstead Jun 2016 #64

Are you saying we can't think for ourselves? hrmjustin Jun 2016 #65

I'm saying that when you have the formal levers of power, you can handle it in many ways Armstead Jun 2016 #68

I think they have been rather calm. hrmjustin Jun 2016 #69

Did we challenge the Democratic party not become Obama Inc. Wtf is this, create all these rules and seabeyond Jun 2016 #40

Too late, really. djean111 Jun 2016 #47

democratic party didn't become obama Inc beachbum bob Jun 2016 #51

Because Obama is not Clinton Armstead Jun 2016 #53

The GOP has been worried ever since Trump first won a primary. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #59

She is? I guess everybody can just stay home tomorrow. magical thyme Jun 2016 #61

I think as many people as possible should vote for Bernie Armstead Jun 2016 #62

well certainly the msm plans to declare her the winner tomorrow magical thyme Jun 2016 #63

Because she will be the winner tomorrow evening. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #76

Neither candidate can achieve the requisite delegates until July 25 magical thyme Jun 2016 #78

One candidate WILL achieve the requisite delegates tomorrow. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #79

Few things are more offensive than your dismissing the will of the voters as a coronation. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #77

Only thing more offensive is an actual pre-determined coronation. Armstead Jun 2016 #86

Which hasn't happened. What part of democracy so offends you? -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #88

Too late. nt ladjf Jun 2016 #82

Like the Democratic Party won't be Clinton Inc. Skwmom Jun 2016 #90

Or, a Wall Street franchise. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #94