2016 Postmortem

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76. Sanders voted almost identically with Hillary when she was in the Senate

Mon Jun 6, 2016, 02:55 PM

Jun 2016

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To me, Sanders is the establishment. The question I have for him is the same I have for any politician. How effective will he be in enacting his proposals?

I think his 'people's revolution' is ill-conceived, naive (or disingenuous), clumsy and careless, and waged almost exclusively by Sanders and his camp against anyone daring to support his political rival in this primary.

Sanders can only dream of achieving the success Barack Obama has experienced.

The stuff about Obama disliking Hillary is pure bunk.

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Enough with the “political revolution.” [View all] bigtree Jun 2016 OP

It has to be all about Bernie, all of the time apparently. Starting to get spooky. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1

Why are Clinton supporters so angry? Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #2

I don't think they are angry, they're already starting to celebrate. FSogol Jun 2016 #4

We pity bernie followers who can't see the hypocrisy in saying superdelegates are bad THEN saying MariaThinks Jun 2016 #51

Because their television tells them to be angry. tabasco Jun 2016 #53

I suppose I'd petulantly deflect as well if I were in second place. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #66

Don't confuse "angry" with "fed up." We're fed up with the media helping Sanders lie endlessly. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #74

What do you think of the article? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #75

And why do they think the Bernie movement won't continue, even without him? floriduck Jun 2016 #77

Yes.... deathrind Jun 2016 #3

why pretend Hillary's victory doesn't offer that? bigtree Jun 2016 #6

Its not pretend... deathrind Jun 2016 #8

it's an opinion bigtree Jun 2016 #10

It is not opinion. deathrind Jun 2016 #34

you can't make a credible argument bigtree Jun 2016 #41

Typical. deathrind Jun 2016 #52

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no political movement can succeed without compromise bigtree Jun 2016 #16

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FDR was all about compromise bigtree Jun 2016 #25

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I've addressed this before bigtree Jun 2016 #39

"We wage revolution against enemies" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #56

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you raised FDR as an example bigtree Jun 2016 #64

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you need to read more history bigtree Jun 2016 #72

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You just joined DU today, and you are lecturing people on what is the 'proper' historical context? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #79

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FDR did many things that would have been verboten in 1960, let alone today. forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #49

Not really. thucythucy Jun 2016 #81

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Sorry, but that's not quite accurate. thucythucy Jun 2016 #85

The threat of stacking the SCOTUS BlindTiresias Jun 2016 #38

Hahaha. Love it! KPN Jun 2016 #28

Hope for better tomorrow = support reality not Unicorns uponit7771 Jun 2016 #68

Another angry HRC supporter trying to minimize Bernie Sanders and his supporters. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #5

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don't pretend there's anything she could say or do to 'earn' your vote bigtree Jun 2016 #12

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those 'ideals' aren't going to go anywhere bigtree Jun 2016 #19

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the idea of a political revolution is a curious thing bigtree Jun 2016 #30

Exactly! And succinctly. KPN Jun 2016 #32

Wrong side of history? KPN Jun 2016 #31

No you have to take responcibility for your vote and your decision. Nobody is going to come around upaloopa Jun 2016 #40

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It's not me...it's we! Jack Bone Jun 2016 #9

that's nonsense bigtree Jun 2016 #13

no it's not...messaging matters! Jack Bone Jun 2016 #37

Bernie is about going back to the Senate and working with Hillary to make things happen. upaloopa Jun 2016 #42

if Hillary wins...Trump will be the 45th President Jack Bone Jun 2016 #48

Why do reactionaries always sound so brittle and cranky? leveymg Jun 2016 #15

We're supposed to accept the "reality" of corrupt politics in a corrupt government. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #17

ENOUGH WITH THE RIGHT WING DEMOCRATS wendylaroux Jun 2016 #18

enough with the effort to divide our Democratic party. bigtree Jun 2016 #20

We are not dividing it. You are. KPN Jun 2016 #35

right, the campaign of the independent-opportunistically turned Democrat bigtree Jun 2016 #46

Who said anything about this election or unifying? KPN Jun 2016 #86

it is already divided wendylaroux Jun 2016 #88

But...but...but I like the political revolution. n/t davidlynch Jun 2016 #21

oh, go ahead bigtree Jun 2016 #23

Good, I expect you won't be complaining while her policies allow the complete overtake Live and Learn Jun 2016 #22

Stop, just fucking stop! You lost stop posting sour your grapes. Nobody cares about what you say. upaloopa Jun 2016 #29

I didn't lose a thing. The country is in danger of losing its morality. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #36

I had hundreds on ignore and took them off. We need to unite not devide if anything good is going upaloopa Jun 2016 #45

LOL This is your way of uniting? You may need to try a bit harder than just telling me to shut up. Live and Learn Jun 2016 #50

How drunk are you? I can practically hear you slobbering all over your keyboard.... phleshdef Jun 2016 #59

What would be nice is if you would stop lying. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #44

Nope, that is the real version of Hillary. What specifically do you disagree with? Live and Learn Jun 2016 #47

Right fucking on target! Berners can accept reality or sink deeper into delusion. upaloopa Jun 2016 #26

Simplistic, shallow, absurd, unbecoming, loser, deluded, sanctimonious... pandr32 Jun 2016 #43

What broad brush, dismissive, delusional ad hominem cheerleading. There is no delusion in ancianita Jun 2016 #55

Christ, if I were as whiny and feckless as some Clinton supporters, I'd probably just... phleshdef Jun 2016 #57

How foolish. We're not echoing, we're the one's winning. You sound ridiculous. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #61

No, what is ridiculous is people are still whining about Sanders when we all know its over soon. phleshdef Jun 2016 #63

Berners are realists who'll take 30% of something (Hillary) over 100% of nothing (Trump). ancianita Jun 2016 #60

The movement predates Sanders' candidacy, and is what persuaded him to run... Orsino Jun 2016 #62

Sanders is the 'establishment' bigtree Jun 2016 #67

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Sanders voted almost identically with Hillary when she was in the Senate bigtree Jun 2016 #76

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'Revolution' makes for good PR branding LanternWaste Jun 2016 #65

This out of the same paper that lied about Bernie blatantly all through the campaign. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #71

We can have Republican-lite forever, as long as we elect Democratic Party preferred candidates. longship Jun 2016 #83

Bernie's revolution is an empty bumper sticker slogan redstateblues Jun 2016 #84

K&R mcar Jun 2016 #87