2016 Postmortem

DonCoquixote

(13,950 posts) Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:38 AM Jun 2016

To those that say "we should give bernie nothing!" [View all]

Yes, primaries are ugly. History did nto erase a lot of the ugly and yes RACIST statements made in 2008 campaign. Yes, many voters who were targeted by those in 2008 stood up for Clinton in 2016, but that does not mean they were forgotten. People just agreed to give and take;people did not have to be friends, or even pretend they liked each other, they just did was was needed to shut the GOP down.

Yes,primaries are ugly. If Obama wanted to, he could have EASILY found another Secretary of State. He could have started with Kerry, or gotten another lady to be Secretary of State (and there are many who could have done that job well, Gillibrand for starters.) But he chose tor each out to Hillary.

The last thing you need to do before the elections is act like you do not need people. EVERYONE counts.

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To those that say "we should give bernie nothing!" [View all] DonCoquixote Jun 2016 OP

"give and take" - that's the key - we need to compromise DrDan Jun 2016 #1

Well said. If nothing else, Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #2

Reality Robbins Jun 2016 #7

That's why I talked about Bernie supporters, not Bernie Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #8

Many of us do Robbins Jun 2016 #11

Yeah we had peace and prosperity...oh the horror! nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #14

But then came bush* rock Jun 2016 #20

Now that was horror! Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #35

And some will say that, with a straight face, in the name of democracy... Orsino Jun 2016 #3

Too late. You don't get to take the jackpot by cheating, then fake benevolence by tossing GoneFishin Jun 2016 #4

Nobody cheated you. You need to stop saying that if you want benevolence. upaloopa Jun 2016 #6

I know few are willing to call bullshit because it is uncouth. Tough. I don't expect you to admit it GoneFishin Jun 2016 #21

Talk about sour grapes. He lost. brush Jun 2016 #27

There's a difference between beating and cheating. HRC BEAT Sanders by every metric. nt LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #9

Including cheating to illicitly increase the other metrics. GoneFishin Jun 2016 #22

When? Where? sweetloukillbot Jun 2016 #28

Again, there is a difference between getting beat and getting cheated. She *beat* him LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #33

Bernie represents all the millions who voted for him. Hortensis Jun 2016 #5

Hillary represents all the millions (and millions more) who voted for her. LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #10

LadeeBug, it's actually a one-way street with a couple Hortensis Jun 2016 #12

I can see that... LaydeeBug Jun 2016 #34

Bernie ran a good campaign Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #13

We should give Sanders NOTHING... MohRokTah Jun 2016 #15

I think the OP is premised on him not doing those things. yeah if he causes a scene at the conventio arely staircase Jun 2016 #18

Fortunately, your candidate is smarter than you are. (n/t) Jim Lane Jun 2016 #38

IF he pulls the shit he says he's gonna pull,... MohRokTah Jun 2016 #39

Fortunately, the Senate Democrats are also smarter than you are. (n/t) Jim Lane Jun 2016 #40

I think he totally deserves a cabinet position. I am with you all the way on this. arely staircase Jun 2016 #16

How generous that after she steals his wallet that she would toss him a couple of his own dollars GoneFishin Jun 2016 #23

How delusional thinking that Bernie was entitled to the win and it was "stolen" because he lost.-nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #25

That's your reasoning for giving Sanders a cabinet position? mac56 Jun 2016 #24

Old LBJ saying. Democrats know it. And now you do. nt arely staircase Jun 2016 #32

and that DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #30

I would rather stay in the Senate then be in the cabinet personally. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #36

Trust me LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #17

I really don't see it happening. I don't see HRC "giving" Bernie anything he hasn't already fought Hiraeth Jun 2016 #19

I hope you aren't implying SOS was a quid pro quo to her dropping out. That would have been a crime. CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #26

Hillary liberal from boston Jun 2016 #29

bullshit Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37

no but I think it was DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #31