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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Do you support the Free Trade policies that the Corporate Democrats are selling? [View all]Scuba
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"If the Democratic Party would fight as hard for the Working Class as the Republican Party fights for the Ruling Class, the Republicans would be a powerless minority party within a few election cycles.
The Democratic Party knows this, the Republican Party knows this, the Ruling Class knows this- and they've been astonishingly successful at making sure the Working Class never learns this." ~ Anonymous
The Democratic Party knows this, the Republican Party knows this, the Ruling Class knows this- and they've been astonishingly successful at making sure the Working Class never learns this." ~ Anonymous
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rhett o rick
Jun 2016
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Mine was an answer in the form of a question. He is a corporatist and he loves the TPP.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#133
It must be so comforting to blindly trust, but not Democratic. Skepticism is healthy.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#135
Hillary Cannot Tell The TRUTH On Her Best Day... Especially Re: Her Position On TPP! NOWWW
CorporatistNation
Jun 2016
#10
This is clearly Clinton speak:"the President should listen to and work with his allies in Congress,"
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#17
She doesn't really oppose it. Anyone who believes she now magically does also
NorthCarolina
Jun 2016
#80
The logic of the non-progressives befuddles me. They support the Major Corporations that
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#42
The use of 'progressive' irritates me becasue it's normally associated with people
appalachiablue
Jun 2016
#78
They embrace the conservative ideology why can't they admit it? Rhetorical question.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#121
The multi-country trade agreement is not 'conservative ideology'. FDR created it, Sweden uses it
pampango
Jun 2016
#122
The way that the Dems have favored banks, corporations, free trade and regulation has been the......
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#4
What is frustrating is those that are so devoted to Clinton will not discuss Free Trade.
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#24
Yes, you're so right. Not about what's best for the country, but being on the winning side!
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#25
If everything is going so great why do so many people feel like they are barely surviving?
Cheese Sandwich
Jun 2016
#9
Many people have their own statistics, but the government has showed a 20 yr downward trend for.....
dmosh42
Jun 2016
#27
The high cost of a college education is never figured into the snake oil statistics either
think
Jun 2016
#61
The CPI is the formula that adjusts for changing costs, so you brought it up (nt)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#85
"The high cost of a college education is never figured into the snake oil statistics"
Recursion
Jun 2016
#90
I was referring to your snake oil statistics Recursion. You know the ones you create and post here.
think
Jun 2016
#92
unemployment is higher, wages are lower, the poverty rate is higher and growing.....
larkrake
Jun 2016
#94
Well, other than the fact that all of those are false, that would be a good argument
Recursion
Jun 2016
#97
NO. And I fail to understand voters who also do not and yet who will vote for Hillary
Triana
Jun 2016
#11
If they have a government capable of signing a deal then they have one capable of setting
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#23
We didn't wait on them to set our minimum wage and if they don't want one it is on them. We should
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#129
I hear you. I think a lot of people will join you. The neoliberals have taken control of
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#40
According to polls, a lot more Democrats support 'free trade' than republicans. Trump read his base
pampango
Jun 2016
#37
Well Free Trade does have the word "Free" in it and I am afraid that's about as
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#38
Apparently the republican base is not fooled by the "Free" the way Democrats are.
pampango
Jun 2016
#43
No one said anything about doing away with trade. The TPP isn't about trade it's about empowering
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#49
But the key word is free. We are free to screw ourselves to make the corporations bigger and
rhett o rick
Jun 2016
#50
SoS Clinton had no problem telling the govt of Haiti it had to lower it's minimum wage....
think
Jun 2016
#86
But you just said we don't tell govts how to set the minimum wage. What happened?
think
Jun 2016
#91
So you're saying that with the TTP we can't influence the minimum wage but without it we can?
think
Jun 2016
#100
We don't enforce the agreements we already have & the AFL-CIO prez calls the TPP a carbon copy:
think
Jun 2016
#105
And yet you want to take away the AFL-CIO's ability to sue Colombia over those outrages
Recursion
Jun 2016
#107
Bullshit. I want fair trade where the AFL-CIO sits at the damn table like Obama said he'd do
think
Jun 2016
#108
Yes, you do. They're suing right now (that's what that complaint is part of)
Recursion
Jun 2016
#109
If the unions were involved in drafting the FTAs they wouldn't be suing over the 99 murders
think
Jun 2016
#110
Are you claiming unions wouldn't have the right to sue if they got to help draft the FTAs?
think
Jun 2016
#113
"Unfortunately, our ideas were rejected." That's not helping draft the TTP. That's being shut out
think
Jun 2016
#117
99 union members and leaders were murdered in Columbia. CAFTA FAILED to protect those workers.
think
Jun 2016
#115
NO. The ILAB division of the Department of labor is in charge of over seeing FTA enforcement.
think
Jun 2016
#118
I clicked the first link ....Written by a member of a right-wing "freedom" think tank
Armstead
Jun 2016
#63
I agree with Ron Paul on certain things...like his opposition to the War in Iraq
Armstead
Jun 2016
#73
Some parts of all trade agreements are good for the US, some parts not. We will never get 100%
Jitter65
Jun 2016
#59
Yeah those silly domestic laws should be gotten rid of to make life easier for Corporations
Armstead
Jun 2016
#64
This is a ridiculous argument though: the countries joining have to *raise* their minimum wage
Recursion
Jun 2016
#68
Who cares? Trade is now off the table. Along with fracking. Universal Health....etc.
Armstead
Jun 2016
#65
https://ustr.gov/trade-agreements/free-trade-agreements/trans-pacific-partnership/tpp-full-text
think
Jun 2016
#106
Why do you always pick on Goldman Sachs, as opposed to Deutsche Bank, JP Morgan, or Barclays?
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2016
#123
If we have to ship jobs, I'd much rather keep them in Central America or the Caribbean
Algernon Moncrieff
Jun 2016
#128
Clinton Spokesman Brian Fallon on Hillary’s Economic Message | Video link below
BootinUp
Jun 2016
#137