2016 Postmortem

one_voice

(20,043 posts) Tue Jun 7, 2016, 02:28 PM Jun 2016

I'm not sure I understand... [View all]

At the end of the primary. Hillary will have more votes & more pledged delegates.

Bernie's plan is to go to the SD's and try and convince them to flip and support him tipping the scales (giving him enough delegates--pledged and SD's) to be the nominee.

In doing this it would ignore/over rule/the voters?

Is this the plan? Do I understand what Bernie's plan is?

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I'm not sure I understand... [View all] one_voice Jun 2016 OP

Yep. That's the plan. Lucinda Jun 2016 #1

You got it. BootinUp Jun 2016 #2

the plan was to give his supporters a justification for staying in the race, to give geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3

I think Bernie should one_voice Jun 2016 #6

I think he had it in his head that confrontation was better than collaboration geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7

I could have told him that! greatauntoftriplets Jun 2016 #18

your endorsement, and my endorsement, of Hillary won't make a complete public fool of him geek tragedy Jun 2016 #20

Yup. greatauntoftriplets Jun 2016 #21

And to keep the $27 donations flowing. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #24

Got another fundraising email today... brooklynite Jun 2016 #48

Yes, he's trying to flip SDs that he has been disparaging all primary season long n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #4

You got it! boston bean Jun 2016 #5

I think he is pulling out tomorrow, but you guys sure are not doing much to get his supporters to Mass Jun 2016 #8

My side? *My* side wants to keep one_voice Jun 2016 #10

Yes, because you cannot wait until tomorrow to see what happens. Mass Jun 2016 #12

I did not attack him... one_voice Jun 2016 #23

You make a lot of assumptions about me. Mass Jun 2016 #40

if you're never voting hillary nothing said on DU will change that. vote for who you want nt msongs Jun 2016 #15

I was always going to vote for the nominee, but you make exactly my point. Mass Jun 2016 #37

What would you consider ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #34

Yes. Fuck voters, Sanders simply knows he is more loved. Nt seabeyond Jun 2016 #9

If voters would have voted correctly,he wouldn't sufrommich Jun 2016 #11

hmmm handmade34 Jun 2016 #26

Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2016 #38

While I have similar concerns, is that not the (ostensible) purpose of superdelegates? Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #13

I'm guessing the GOP wished they still used the Super Delegate they got rid of a cycle ago. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #16

yup...that's his plan, US political domination via Super Delegates Sheepshank Jun 2016 #14

He had big campaign rallies. All those kids think he's a king. So, clearly the supers will switch. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #17

It's called holding on to leverage Armstead Jun 2016 #19

Oh the melodrama. Of course Hillary doesn't care about actual policy or issues. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #22

They've always been great at blinding people with "policies anf programs" Armstead Jun 2016 #39

to be blunt, the cliched "does the bidding of Wall Street" stuff is just hot air. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #42

It's tedious that she's a servant of Wall St....The real problem is... Armstead Jun 2016 #44

again, hot air and platitudes instead of concrete policy criticisms. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #46

I've read it before, and I've been hearing the Clintons for about 25 years Armstead Jun 2016 #52

suggestion: stop referring to "the Clintons" when critiquing her policy ideas. She's not Bill. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #53

You disappoint me with the phrase "unicorn" Armstead Jun 2016 #61

Clinton's in favor of a public option (she was in 2008 as well) so I'm not seeing geek tragedy Jun 2016 #62

I hope not. I hope Bernie one_voice Jun 2016 #25

The problem is that SD exist in the first place. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #27

I agree with this... one_voice Jun 2016 #33

You nailed it. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #28

You got it exactly right . . . you certainly don't understand. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #29

Bernie has never been interested in democracy or the Democratic party Raastan Jun 2016 #30

Also, if this concerns you, you should read the letter Hillary wrote to the SDs back in 2008 pdsimdars Jun 2016 #31

This type of posts from Clinton supporters is funny. TimPlo Jun 2016 #32

Most of the minority voters, too obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #35

Yeah, voters can't be trusted... Bernie knows better. DCBob Jun 2016 #36

You have to understand, every state that Bernie lost doesn't count alcibiades_mystery Jun 2016 #41

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jun 2016 #43

You have a great day! one_voice Jun 2016 #49

^^^^^^^^^^^ Amen! ^^^^^^^^^^^ pdsimdars Jun 2016 #58

Re: Superdelegates. pat_k Jun 2016 #45

this is like Karl Rove on Fox News on election night in 2012 insisting geek tragedy Jun 2016 #47

Why is expected that superdelegates should flip? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #50

You guys would have know about SD's if you had participated before now. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51

This isn't a poll. There's no random sampling or margin of error involved. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #54

There is uncertainty about events between now and July, and therefore about how they'll vote. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #63

how was it done in '08 & '04? one_voice Jun 2016 #56

I think SD's should go too... lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #64

Sanders needs to "flip" more than 10x the number of SDs who ultimately flipped to Obama in 2008. nt BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #55

cart <---- horse. This is your problem. quit doing it. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #57

Thanks for the advice. one_voice Jun 2016 #59

I don't think you quoted Bernie correctly and/or completely. Peace Out. Hiraeth Jun 2016 #65

That's it! Charming, isn't it? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #60

His plan is to go to the convention and represent the 45% who got him there. hellofromreddit Jun 2016 #66