2016 Postmortem

Cobalt Violet

(9,977 posts)

2. K & R!

Reply to Cheese Sandwich (Original post)

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 03:58 PM

Jun 2016

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

0 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

93 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

NBC Poll: Trump Beats Clinton When Third Party Candidates Are Included [View all] Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 OP

So how long until we see a post claiming NBC is a RW rag? TimPlo Jun 2016 #1

MSNBC is all Trump, all the time AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #34

MSNBC the left wing news media TimPlo Jun 2016 #41

MSNBC is a right wing tabloid AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #43

Yea I know. TimPlo Jun 2016 #45

Why are they sponsoring the Convention? HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #52

Because the Democratic Party is not Democratic anymore; it's Third Way. senz Jun 2016 #61

MSNBC is owned by Comcast. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #49

Convention sponsor. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #51

K & R! Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #2

I wonder how that breaks down, state-by-state ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #3

We won't get much indication until they poll the states that way Jarqui Jun 2016 #9

Any pole that has Trump up in Florida is very suspect dbackjon Jun 2016 #90

Only 4 times ever did it go the reverse. Out of over 220+years. SheenaR Jun 2016 #17

they'll just say that Clinton will catch up and win 58-36 ... MisterP Jun 2016 #4

We don't elect Presidents by popular vote but rather by electoral college vote. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #5

That's very comforting thank you. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #7

Only four times in our nation's history did it not coincide SheenaR Jun 2016 #15

One of those times was the inspiration for DU's creation. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #32

Four is not a totally insignificant number out of 56 possible. (n/t) thesquanderer Jun 2016 #48

Ok SheenaR Jun 2016 #58

Yep, and here's the latest out of Florida, and it's bad news for Dems. Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #76

Let it all out Tarc Jun 2016 #6

It's really something, isn't it? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #8

It's like last call, and those few down at the end of the bar Tarc Jun 2016 #10

Do you think that, after June 16, no one will be allowed to post poll results you don't like? Jim Lane Jun 2016 #70

Your are certainly free to try Tarc Jun 2016 #71

You do realize these polls will be allowed through the GE, right? Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #78

You are certainly free to try Tarc Jun 2016 #79

Sure, I saw polls as recent as yesterday... Blanks Jun 2016 #89

Anyone can believe what they choose to believe, but that doesn't preclude them from being posted Matt_in_STL Jun 2016 #91

Yeah, I don't think posting polls is against the rules... Blanks Jun 2016 #93

he also beats her without third party candidates. restorefreedom Jun 2016 #11

Ah the Green traitors at it again Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #12

You realize Gary Johnson draws more votes from Hillary than Jill Stein does? Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #13

Gives an idea of where a lot of Sanders support is coming from JoePhilly Jun 2016 #14

There's no doubt alot of Bernie's support comes from independents that don't like the 2 big parties Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #16

Libertarians and Greens. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #18

I'm just assuming anybody who goes through the trouble of labeling themselves Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #20

All Hillary has to do is win enough electoral college votes. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #23

Because of the blue wall she'll start out almost there Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #30

Exactly correct ... and Trump will spend the next 5 months insulting ... JoePhilly Jun 2016 #36

Insulting yes but more importantly sec.clinton will wipe the floor with him on policy Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #37

Oh absolutely ... and she'll do it in a way that will really tick him off. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #38

Can't wait. I bet she gets him so flustered his face will turn a crazy shade of red-orange while he Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #42

Oh she going to finally have some conventions? TimPlo Jun 2016 #44

The junk food of the electorate Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #29

No, that's just ignorant. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #53

Why should people have blind party loyalty? Nt 9999dmg Jun 2016 #64

I don't believe that at all Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #68

No Dem progressive would vote for Hillary either pinebox Jun 2016 #73

I knew a number of former Dems who just hadn't changed their party but never voted Dem Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #69

Traitors to what? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #65

They and their dear friend Nader elected Bush II Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #66

Utter rubbish. Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #67

But talking points are more important than reality! pinebox Jun 2016 #74

Smart people don't count springtime polls. Look at history. I guarantee they will look different anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #19

They could look worse in July Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #21

Have you seen what's going on with the repubs? nt anotherproletariat Jun 2016 #22

Good point they're in huge trouble. Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #24

The only way they will look worse is if Sanders supporters remain stubborn. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #25

I'm personally aware of at least 20 lifelong Democratic voters who have vowed never Hillary Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #47

With Trump as the only realistic alternative, a lifelong Democrat would be selling out onenote Jun 2016 #54

Ok eeyore Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #26

True... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #39

Good to know. nt Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #27

Sadly - you wish. bettyellen Jun 2016 #28

This is early June. Obama was behind right now also. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #31

Yep... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #35

National polls don't tell the true story of an election that will be fought out in a few states onenote Jun 2016 #33

Absolutely correct and.... LenaBaby61 Jun 2016 #40

It seems that many people here forget or sadoldgirl Jun 2016 #46

The question is, which--if any--states get thrown from Hillary to Trump because of 3rd parties. (nt) thesquanderer Jun 2016 #50

So Trump wins if there's an option to vote for a mythical "other candidate" that's whoever you want? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #55

What a poor analysis they did of their own poll Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #56

Indeed. A fantasy "other" candidate has no place in such a poll. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #57

Yep. The media need a horse race and they'll do anything to create it. Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #60

Uh, but they did one where they named two "other" candidates Cheese Sandwich Jun 2016 #59

Except for the obvious one? Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #63

This is why the SDs should pick Bernie at the convention. senz Jun 2016 #62

The SDs are aware of something you apparently don't appreciate onenote Jun 2016 #72

The SD have been running rightward since 1972 n/t That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #82

If true, why has Sanders been pretending he can get hundreds to switch sides? onenote Jun 2016 #86

I don't know, they've been in the tank for Clinton since before the election started. n/t That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #87

You wish. Darb Jun 2016 #75

If Gary Johnson is allowed onto the national debate stage pinebox Jun 2016 #77

American libertarians are big business laissez-faire capitalist. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #83

There's more to it pinebox Jun 2016 #85

"Research has shown that third-party candidates often receive more support in public opinion polls BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #80

Yes people do tend to vote for a candidate they think might actually win when the time comes. n/t PoliticAverse Jun 2016 #84

Stein was polling 2-3% in 2012. She ended up with 0.35%. Johnson, polling as high as 8%, got 1%. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #88

As we see with the California results, polls are only snapshots (blurry ones at that). Metric System Jun 2016 #81

It doesn't matter - Hillary will be the Democratic nominee...win or lose. Sancho Jun 2016 #92