2016 Postmortem

Blue Meany

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30. She was expected to give up and so is Bernie,

Tue Jun 7, 2016, 10:17 PM

Jun 2016

She didn't end her campaign until the convention, and before the Convention she wrote to every superdelegate making her case that she was the stronger candidate. Her campaign was also discussing going after Obama's pledged delegates, but I don't think they went through with that. Bernie is just planning to go to the Convention to make his case.

I don't see the sexism any more than I think anti-semitism it at play in the way Bernie has been treated. But I can say that he certainly has not been treated as well as she was in 2008.

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I'm getting pissed at Bernie again. [View all] boston bean Jun 2016 OP

Or maybe, you should just be happy that your candidate is in the catbird seat. nt Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #1

We should be settle, be thankful for what we got? So predictable. seabeyond Jun 2016 #22

Yes Sea, that's exactly what I'm saying Joe the Revelator Jun 2016 #32

But one gets to feel so much more aggrieved by being a sore winner... appal_jack Jun 2016 #174

Sure, he can stay in. Boston Bean, I actually Hortensis Jun 2016 #192

I'm tempted to say you forgot /s tag greiner3 Jun 2016 #193

I'm sure people are still nervous about having Clinton as the nominee Rosa Luxemburg Jun 2016 #2

We're only nervous because... GoldenThunder Jun 2016 #109

Didn't we determine that he IS in the 1%? nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3

nope, sorry, thats an untrue smear, Sanders is worth only between 194,026-$741,030 total wealth AntiBank Jun 2016 #43

It might be smaller if he has to pay back the $600,000 WhiteTara Jun 2016 #83

He probably won't suspend his campaign... Blanks Jun 2016 #179

They did go to the Santa Monica Pier WhiteTara Jun 2016 #191

And you KNOW this how ? apcalc Jun 2016 #176

ffs, they are official federal document filings AntiBank Jun 2016 #180

Yep, sexism. No doubt about it. MohRokTah Jun 2016 #4

Not on the night of the last primaries democrattotheend Jun 2016 #16

Sure. Her being a neocon has nothing to do with it. I would totally support a man like GoneFishin Jun 2016 #89

Since she's not a "neocon" you'll need a better reason. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #169

Why is it sexism? That is just absurd. He obviously thinks he's the better candidate. adigal Jun 2016 #98

I can't imagine Bernie doing this to a male opponent. nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #151

of course it is, but those who hate her like to say sexism has absolutely nothing to do with it. niyad Jun 2016 #5

You have absolutely struck the unmistakable tell rock Jun 2016 #73

Black is white, up is down, revolution is sexism Android3.14 Jun 2016 #6

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #7

If his ego was driving him, he would have pulled out already and conceded.... Armstead Jun 2016 #20

Massive ego. Why, the crowds alone tells us he has "earned" the nomination. seabeyond Jun 2016 #25

Count the number of time that Hillary lauds herself Blue Meany Jun 2016 #52

Sanders has a massive ego. seabeyond Jun 2016 #92

Repeating your assertion is not the same thing as presenting Blue Meany Jun 2016 #134

Massive. Ego. seabeyond Jun 2016 #136

Elvis never did no drugs. Matt_R Jun 2016 #155

Ok then jcgoldie Jun 2016 #44

He knows that when he drops out, the issues he is passionate about disappear. Armstead Jun 2016 #62

The longer he stays in after having already lost, the LESS leverage he has. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #170

potential for 3 letters to come into play before the convention would be my guess AntiBank Jun 2016 #69

FAILED: Bernie Instigation, perhaps? nt MADem Jun 2016 #162

What's his end game? Beowulf Jun 2016 #82

I'm saving this. BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2016 #190

should I call the wambulance? AntiBank Jun 2016 #66

you angry brah? whirlygigspin Jun 2016 #8

After tonight he will need 400 or more delegates to flip upaloopa Jun 2016 #9

lmao opiate69 Jun 2016 #10

You do realize Hillary did not concede the night of the last primary in 2008, right? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #11

I do realize the media and every wasn't giving her any quarter. boston bean Jun 2016 #17

I'm sorry, was that a "yes" or a "no"? Barack_America Jun 2016 #45

I realize she endorsed obama in early June. boston bean Jun 2016 #50

The day of the last primary? Barack_America Jun 2016 #53

Jerry Brown didn't suspend his campaign in 1992...nobody cared brooklynite Jun 2016 #12

Don't let it bother you PepperHarlan Jun 2016 #13

Bernie also endorsed Obama at this point in 2008 obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #14

Wait... Wait... Wait... Matt_R Jun 2016 #157

Too bad, so sad. n/t Jester Messiah Jun 2016 #15

There's no Freakin' time for "Celebration" Jack Bone Jun 2016 #18

Lobby metroins Jun 2016 #87

Bernie who? Hillary can celebrate and declare victory, no one can stop her. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #19

Everything she does is wrong and he can do no wrong ever bravenak Jun 2016 #21

hy�poc�ri�sy TimPlo Jun 2016 #27

Thank you for defining your actions bravenak Jun 2016 #33

Sorry I am not Clinton I did not write a letter to the SD trying to flip them in 2008 TimPlo Jun 2016 #38

I don't expect perfection, but I do expect the ... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #28

Who is under federal criminal investigation? bravenak Jun 2016 #31

Very likely the Democratic front runner...nt tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #40

Has she been interview? Where are the charges? bravenak Jun 2016 #78

She will likely be interviewed later this month... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #96

So you have no evidence that there are pending charges? Just conjecture and rumors. Cool. bravenak Jun 2016 #117

Nope...based on information reported and... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #153

Seems kinda bravenak Jun 2016 #154

LMFAO! JRLeft Jun 2016 #160

So the Investigation is not happening becasue... Matt_R Jun 2016 #158

Um, Hillary? Certainly you must know this. Barack_America Jun 2016 #48

Really? What criminal charges are pending and where are they filed? I need to see the paperwork bravenak Jun 2016 #80

The FBI is conducting a criminal investigation, yes. Barack_America Jun 2016 #85

Oh, so this is just a rumor? I have heard of her impending arrest since I was in sixth grade. bravenak Jun 2016 #120

You think the investigation is a rumor? Barack_America Jun 2016 #122

The criminal part is the rumor. bravenak Jun 2016 #131

I don't think you understand what the FBI investigates. Barack_America Jun 2016 #132

But no charges seem to be pending. Just rumor and speculation. bravenak Jun 2016 #140

No they are conducting an email inquiry apcalc Jun 2016 #177

Wow! Self-pity much? chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #41

What a terrible response to my post. Sexism is real and I pity the sexist for being damaged. bravenak Jun 2016 #75

Yes, sexism is real. And this is not sexism. Really, how absurd. There is no evidence for that claim adigal Jun 2016 #103

Yes it is. I'll let you know when I will ALLOW you to define words for me bravenak Jun 2016 #114

Hey, it's up to you if you want to look silly - but good luck convincing anyone to support her adigal Jun 2016 #126

Yeah yeah yeah okay. bravenak Jun 2016 #130

Don't bother, adigal. chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #149

Thanks for the heads up, Mr. White Male Privilege. :) nt adigal Jun 2016 #173

Everything she does is wrong and he can do no wrong ever<<<< flip that baby around AntiBank Jun 2016 #71

BULLSHIT, prove it bravenak Jun 2016 #77

it's simple, we want a PROGRESSIVE Democrat, not a neoliberal warhawk, Warren would do AntiBank Jun 2016 #115

She is progressive. bravenak Jun 2016 #118

yes, progressively centre right wing in regards to foreign policy, trade and whatever else AntiBank Jun 2016 #121

Bullshit bravenak Jun 2016 #123

if Hillary is what passes for LEFT, the USA is so fucked AntiBank Jun 2016 #125

She is. More left left than center left in this country bravenak Jun 2016 #128

just because she is to the left of a rethug, that in no ways makes her left of centre overall AntiBank Jun 2016 #135

You just have to be here full time to know how far the right is in comparison bravenak Jun 2016 #138

no, gutting Social Security make you a conservative. Matt_R Jun 2016 #159

Yes, I would be celebrating Warren today!! adigal Jun 2016 #165

+1 chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #194

Are you shit-stirring on purpose by kicking a 2day old thread with a measly little +1 for a post? Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #195

+100 nt BreakfastClub Jun 2016 #152

Oh cut it with the sexism crap... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #23

hy�poc�ri�sy TimPlo Jun 2016 #24

Clinton did not do this all through the summer up to the convention. boston bean Jun 2016 #29

Oh I forgot you can see the future. TimPlo Jun 2016 #35

Has nothing to do with clairvoyancy. boston bean Jun 2016 #39

That not what you said. TimPlo Jun 2016 #42

Ah, so Sanders is lying and we should not take him at his often repeated words? seabeyond Jun 2016 #59

I have no idea. TimPlo Jun 2016 #67

Sanders has repeatedly stated that he is taking it to the convention and fight to flip SDs seabeyond Jun 2016 #88

So when he does that TimPlo Jun 2016 #93

No, I am not gonna wait day after day after day to see if he changes his mind. I am addressing seabeyond Jun 2016 #97

So Clinton has a massive ego? TimPlo Jun 2016 #100

Over 400? Over 3 million shy of the popular vote? Nothing is comparable to '08. seabeyond Jun 2016 #106

So will of the voters only matter when you are x number over? TimPlo Jun 2016 #107

Clinton was ahead in the popular vote and why she considered it. As I said, nothing comparable. seabeyond Jun 2016 #108

But the popular vote is not a good indication of something TimPlo Jun 2016 #110

Of course one can use it as a yard stick adn you are back pedaling. Clinton has it in every way, seabeyond Jun 2016 #112

So what is magic number as I never heard of this rule of some number makes TimPlo Jun 2016 #116

If you're worried about lying you shouldn't support Hillary. Loudestlib Jun 2016 #139

MOST truthful candidate, three times running, when checked. Most truthful. seabeyond Jun 2016 #141

She lies like a lawyer is what you mean n/t Loudestlib Jun 2016 #142

What I mean is, when compared to the other candidates, she is the most truthful. seabeyond Jun 2016 #143

She's good at giving ambiguous answers and avoiding questions. Loudestlib Jun 2016 #145

Lol. Sanders does not even answer question, only income inequality. Suggesting seabeyond Jun 2016 #147

Obama was not a flawed, disliked, ethically challenged ... dchill Jun 2016 #58

^^^^^ nt grasswire Jun 2016 #79

Yeah I'm real, real tired of it ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #26

She was expected to give up and so is Bernie, Blue Meany Jun 2016 #30

She endorsed Obama in early June 2008. nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #34

The Primaries were earlier that year. She took 5 days off after the last one before conceeding floppyboo Jun 2016 #54

Was the convention 5 days after he end of the primaries? boston bean Jun 2016 #65

where did say convention? floppyboo Jun 2016 #113

Oh another post talking about what Sanders has not done yet. TimPlo Jun 2016 #46

"She didn't end her campaign until the convention" - uh, no. Clinton conceded on June 7th. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #51

Too bad Bernie mcar Jun 2016 #36

What a pathetic little loser. I think Hillary should just ignore him and focus on Don the Con. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #37

hy�poc�ri�sy TimPlo Jun 2016 #47

She's a terrible candidate TeddyR Jun 2016 #49

So terrible, she kicked Sanders ass. seabeyond Jun 2016 #61

Agreed TeddyR Jun 2016 #70

Clinton is better than three on that list and one I am not counting because we have not seabeyond Jun 2016 #94

So on this point we agree TeddyR Jun 2016 #102

How can you say she is a terrible candidate when she beat Bernie so handily? redstateblues Jun 2016 #124

Bernie is nothing but an angry old socialist who can't handle losing to a woman beachbumbob Jun 2016 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Bonobo Jun 2016 #56

wild accusation Vattel Jun 2016 #57

bull puckies, plain and simple. merrily Jun 2016 #60

K&R betsuni Jun 2016 #63

News wires are reporting that Senator Sanders is going to lay off half his staff. Trust Buster Jun 2016 #64

Why don't you understand that we are going to fight against the corporate corruption rhett o rick Jun 2016 #68

Moreover, we are not so weak as to send the weaker candidate to fight the ogre. grasswire Jun 2016 #84

The Powers That Be know who will win in Nov. They are not worried at all. rhett o rick Jun 2016 #137

I wasn't aware you *stopped* being pissed at him. BlueStater Jun 2016 #72

I was trying to turn a new leaf. boston bean Jun 2016 #74

tough. grasswire Jun 2016 #76

No thanks, I'd prefer a woman who ascended on her own merits yodermon Jun 2016 #81

ouch!! grasswire Jun 2016 #86

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #111

Doubt it will happen D_Master81 Jun 2016 #90

Sorry you're "pissed" senseandsensibility Jun 2016 #91

Hillary is not well liked - and she has the email server issue bringing her down adigal Jun 2016 #95

Just admit you hate him and call it good.... AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #99

You could be having such a plesant night and this is your life choice. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #101

Yes, we know all about your indelible rage at Sanders. Scootaloo Jun 2016 #104

It could be that Hillary is reactionary, and Bernie is progressive. immoderate Jun 2016 #105

Bernie is part of the 1% bloom Jun 2016 #119

Do let me know when he shows up wearing a $12,000 jacket... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #188

Exactly! There's not much else to call it but male privilege when a man R B Garr Jun 2016 #127

I'll listen to what people have to say, and give G_j Jun 2016 #129

You can guarantee no such thing. The sexism is extremely minimal. HERVEPA Jun 2016 #133

This message was self-deleted by its author aikoaiko Jun 2016 #144

HRC was in a different place than Bernie aikoaiko Jun 2016 #146

"I'm getting pissed at Bernie again." jack_krass Jun 2016 #148

He cites that Jamaal510 Jun 2016 #150

Let it go Loki Liesmith Jun 2016 #156

Some Democrats really hate the democratic process noiretextatique Jun 2016 #161

Sanders is a bitter old man who can not give up his anger Gothmog Jun 2016 #163

oh, just admit it. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #164

I'm not sure how you think you know my every waking thought. boston bean Jun 2016 #167

it's not just you. I know everyone's waking thoughts. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #168

Money and media attention sharp_stick Jun 2016 #166

I see. Activism = "Throwing a fit." bvf Jun 2016 #171

Well.. disillusioned73 Jun 2016 #172

Lol! Too funny! Bernie didn't say he was gouing to beg superdelegates -- but YOU DID! KPN Jun 2016 #175

Losing integrity is good for some people. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #178

Yep. And Hillary's was shot down years ago... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #189

Wait until his rallies and donations dry up JohnnyRingo Jun 2016 #181

There's no middle ground between campaigning and concession. Orsino Jun 2016 #182

I just have to correct you. There is a middle ground. It's called suspending. boston bean Jun 2016 #183

That doesn't get him to the convention with as many delegates. Orsino Jun 2016 #184

Sander will not flip one Superdelegate. I'm sorry, but he won't. In fact, he will lose many of the boston bean Jun 2016 #185

Suspending, however, would certainly flip some. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #186

Bernie is fighting so he can influence the party platform... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #187

Are you still pissed at him? democrattotheend Jun 2016 #196