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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: The AP Announcing Clinton's "Victory" Was an Embarrassment to Journalism and U.S. Politics [View all]onenote
(46,091 posts)11. The author of the article defeats his own argument
On the one hand, it admits that "Sure, Hillary has more votes, and yes, she was going to win eventually." He also acknowledges "weve known" Hillary Clinton would be the presumptive nominee "for a long time."
Those admissions completely undercut his argument that one person "manufactured" Clinton's win or that reporting she had actually reached the threshold everyone had known "for a long time" that she would reach wasn't newsworthy.
Plus, if as he admits, Clinton was going to win eventually and it was long known that she would be the "presumptive nominee" how does acknowledging it when it happens change much of anything. If it was known on Sunday, or Saturday or the week before that she was going to be the presumptive nominee, wouldn't that knowledge alone be dampening turnout? Wouldn't the fact that Clinton won handily in two races over the weekend had something to do with it? Should the press not have reported those results because it might "dampen" turnout?
What if on Saturday night, after the win the VI put Clinton closer to the nomination, AP had reported 40 new SD commitments, putting her over 2383? Would that have been journalistically wrong to do?
No. Journalists go out, gather information and report it. That's what they do. If anything, the fact that the press didn't sit on the information that they had is more consistent with the notions of an independent press than one that tries to manipulate a story by sitting on information.
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The AP Announcing Clinton's "Victory" Was an Embarrassment to Journalism and U.S. Politics [View all]
The Sushi Bandit
Jun 2016
OP
It probably helped Hillary avoid an embarrassing loss in California, but we'll never really know.
reformist2
Jun 2016
#21
They went when they had the numbers as they always do...no one cared when it happened with Trump.
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#26
How many times during the Primary did they take a poll of superdelegates and report it?
randome
Jun 2016
#2
There are a lot of thing journalist should be embarrassed of, and yes it was unfortunate that AP
still_one
Jun 2016
#7
A news article should not affect whether or not someone votes, unless that someone wasn't motivated
BobbyDrake
Jun 2016
#24
In other news, media outlets are mad that another media outlet beat them on an angle.
Brickbat
Jun 2016
#15