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11. The author of the article defeats his own argument
Wed Jun 8, 2016, 02:10 PM
Jun 2016

On the one hand, it admits that "Sure, Hillary has more votes, and yes, she was going to win eventually." He also acknowledges "we’ve known" Hillary Clinton would be the presumptive nominee "for a long time."

Those admissions completely undercut his argument that one person "manufactured" Clinton's win or that reporting she had actually reached the threshold everyone had known "for a long time" that she would reach wasn't newsworthy.

Plus, if as he admits, Clinton was going to win eventually and it was long known that she would be the "presumptive nominee" how does acknowledging it when it happens change much of anything. If it was known on Sunday, or Saturday or the week before that she was going to be the presumptive nominee, wouldn't that knowledge alone be dampening turnout? Wouldn't the fact that Clinton won handily in two races over the weekend had something to do with it? Should the press not have reported those results because it might "dampen" turnout?

What if on Saturday night, after the win the VI put Clinton closer to the nomination, AP had reported 40 new SD commitments, putting her over 2383? Would that have been journalistically wrong to do?

No. Journalists go out, gather information and report it. That's what they do. If anything, the fact that the press didn't sit on the information that they had is more consistent with the notions of an independent press than one that tries to manipulate a story by sitting on information.

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they jumped the gun by 24 hours but it didn't change the outcome nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #1
So that makes it OK Chasstev365 Jun 2016 #5
You can guess that, but we'll never know. I happen to think that many jack_krass Jun 2016 #9
What specifically leads you to believe this? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #13
Call it a gut feeling jack_krass Jun 2016 #22
The ultimate outcome, no democrattotheend Jun 2016 #17
I think they're still counting votes in Cali geek tragedy Jun 2016 #18
Like I said, they didn't do Hillary any favors democrattotheend Jun 2016 #19
It probably helped Hillary avoid an embarrassing loss in California, but we'll never really know. reformist2 Jun 2016 #21
They went when they had the numbers as they always do...no one cared when it happened with Trump. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #26
Obviously you don't know that, do you? highprincipleswork Jun 2016 #27
Yeah it just happened to be choie Jun 2016 #28
California was never going to be decide the race nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #30
How many times during the Primary did they take a poll of superdelegates and report it? randome Jun 2016 #2
The AP can count to 2383. They did so, and reported the results. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #3
Paste magazine, sounds legit. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #4
Just read the story! The Sushi Bandit Jun 2016 #23
The seams are showing. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #6
There are a lot of thing journalist should be embarrassed of, and yes it was unfortunate that AP still_one Jun 2016 #7
They are both far, far beyond embarrassment at this point Fumesucker Jun 2016 #8
AP threw it? What crap. apnu Jun 2016 #10
The author of the article defeats his own argument onenote Jun 2016 #11
As a Clinton supporter Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #12
So a bunch of folks supposedly read an AP piece and decided not to vote? Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #14
A news article should not affect whether or not someone votes, unless that someone wasn't motivated BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #24
In other news, media outlets are mad that another media outlet beat them on an angle. Brickbat Jun 2016 #15
They were doing their job, maybe a few hours early, but bigwillq Jun 2016 #16
Stephen Ohlemacher - the boy who called Wolf floppyboo Jun 2016 #20
Right but of course it was ok with Trump Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #25
It's not like it was a secret. Christ, anyone who can read or count knew it was over, although Hoyt Jun 2016 #29
K&R. It was disgraceful journalism. Barack_America Jun 2016 #31
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