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Only 5 days left ... then enough of this nonsense n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1
I wanted to be first DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #2
It worked for Richard Bruce Cheney et. al. and now you embrace it too-how sickening. bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #121
It is sickening that people , wittingly or unwittingly, enable Trump. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #131
How do you know it's nonsense? You responded one minute after the OP went up. leveymg Jun 2016 #5
Nonsense ... as it continuing to throw crap up against the wall OP after OP SFnomad Jun 2016 #14
Like a smear artist saying the same thing over and over again. Octafish Jun 2016 #69
No body gives a shit let alone read all that bull upaloopa Jun 2016 #28
People interested in learning will read it. Octafish Jun 2016 #109
I love it when laypersons try to talk about legal concepts Gothmog Jun 2016 #59
Will the FBI investigation be done in five days? panader0 Jun 2016 #19
Maybe you should read post #14 n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #20
I am sure that the investigation will continue to be REAL NEWS for a while, panader0 Jun 2016 #25
To some extent .. but if someone is posting negative article after negative article SFnomad Jun 2016 #30
Legit criticism will be allowed pinebox Jun 2016 #32
No, this is the speculation of a layperson who does not understand the legal concepts Gothmog Jun 2016 #66
Who exactly is a layperson? Separation Jun 2016 #135
A non lawyer Gothmog Jun 2016 #136
No I specifically left the definition of layperson in my previous reply to you. Separation Jun 2016 #140
Intent will be, or has already, been proved. panader0 Jun 2016 #157
No evidence of intent has been found so far Gothmog Jun 2016 #163
I hope you open your eyes and realize that this issue... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #48
For reasons I cannot fathom, no one seems care about the risk. merrily Jun 2016 #60
If the presumptive nominee can be persuaded to withdraw... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #151
One poster who has been beating beating this dead horse has already been flagged. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #33
It's not a "dead horse" until the investigations are over panader0 Jun 2016 #42
If she is not found guilty of a crime she is "exonerated" DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #44
I guess the nuances are lost on you. panader0 Jun 2016 #46
Nuance isn't lost on DSB DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #57
She can't be "exonerated." The State Dept has already found she broke dozens of regulations. The leveymg Jun 2016 #67
Why are you scared to take my wager? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #74
I'll take you up on that. Separation Jun 2016 #143
Really? Dozens? apcalc Jun 2016 #127
I started to compile a list when the IG report came out, but didn't get even half way through. leveymg Jun 2016 #134
he he he snort. We need a knee slapping emoticon notadmblnd Jun 2016 #160
Discussing this issue is the antithesis of "Trump enabling"... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #50
We'll see... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #64
This has nothing to do with Sanders...it has everything to do with the Dem Party... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #71
This one's at the top MFM008 Jun 2016 #102
This isn't nonsense, it's a REAL thing that is HAPPENING pinebox Jun 2016 #31
Lol! zappaman Jun 2016 #81
Psssst! The FBI isn't subject to DU's Terms of Usage RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #56
Can we compare calendars? I was counting six... brooklynite Jun 2016 #65
Yeah, somehow I thought it was Friday already ... long week n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #85
Its gonna be a looooong 5 days workinclasszero Jun 2016 #82
You got that right! apcalc Jun 2016 #126
Oopsie. avaistheone1 Jun 2016 #148
And you can hide your head in the sand... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #149
Still a lot of bitter sore losers ... guess it will take a while to get over it n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #159
No damage has yet been attributed to Clinton's e-mails. n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #3
With 2,200 classified emails over an uncertified server, including 22 TS-SAP, that is not damaging? leveymg Jun 2016 #7
Was that released to unauthorized people who could do us harm? Don't think so. Hoyt Jun 2016 #10
Actually Bill Clinton's personal aide who had access to the server NWCorona Jun 2016 #12
It was released by unauthorized people in emails to her. It was a felony for HRC to not report them. leveymg Jun 2016 #13
Yup! Hillary had a legal obligation to fill out spillage reports on quite a few emails NWCorona Jun 2016 #17
We've been through this before, you can site code section over & over, doesn't make it a violation. Hoyt Jun 2016 #18
Please ask your interlocutor why he won't accept my "loser leaves DU" wager. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #26
The acts fit the statute cited. The facts are well-known. She violated the law. leveymg Jun 2016 #29
LOLOL grasswire Jun 2016 #35
You guys' interpretation of law and circumstances are wrong. I get how badly you want it to be true. Hoyt Jun 2016 #49
So how are those "guys'" interpretations wrong? Maybe you could be more specific...nt tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #54
Give us specific facts, not another condescending lecture, please. nt leveymg Jun 2016 #62
Read law, but not looking for a way to pin something on Clinton. My guess, Obama would not endorse Hoyt Jun 2016 #111
I have long expected he would follow the Deutch example. leveymg Jun 2016 #114
You just keep getting wilder with BS. Read what poster told you below -- No Intent, No Indictment. Hoyt Jun 2016 #115
You're still on the case with this, I see. brush Jun 2016 #72
omg. You don't read the newspapers do you? leveymg Jun 2016 #88
You don't watch TV news do you? brush Jun 2016 #91
I've said for a long time that I don't expect DOJ to actually indict her. I do believe the FBI leveymg Jun 2016 #93
Again, thank you for the laughs Gothmog Jun 2016 #105
"Some Or All" Of Clinton Emails Designated SAP Referenced Public Information About U.S. Drone Strike Gothmog Jun 2016 #104
"Defense information" is much broader than classification... Orsino Jun 2016 #161
Allow me to correct this for you. Exilednight Jun 2016 #8
Yep. If disclosure is found to have occurred, as with Petraeus... Orsino Jun 2016 #11
Known to the intelligence agencies that originally classified the information. leveymg Jun 2016 #16
Except damage to Clinton's electability. n/t Herman4747 Jun 2016 #153
Show some respect for the dead, will you? randome Jun 2016 #4
And one should show respect for dead horses as well DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #6
Lol MFM008 Jun 2016 #103
The difference.. DCBob Jun 2016 #9
Actually, if you read the FBI warrant application, she had a security clearance, and she was author- leveymg Jun 2016 #23
I read the issue with providing classified information to his lover (security clearance or not) DCBob Jun 2016 #27
just wrong. grasswire Jun 2016 #38
The fact is she is not going to be indicted. DCBob Jun 2016 #41
say it three times... grasswire Jun 2016 #45
Same goes for you and the others praying for the indictment fairy . DCBob Jun 2016 #47
How can she avoid indictment? yourpaljoey Jun 2016 #15
LMFAO DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #21
It doesn't really matter if either of you guys stay or go. The larger questions are: jonno99 Jun 2016 #52
What will happen if a piano falls on my head? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #70
His AG, Loretta Lynch, will not indict now, even if the FBI recommends it to her. amandabeech Jun 2016 #96
I agree in part. leveymg Jun 2016 #100
I'm not sure if the President can pardon absent a trial or even an indictment. amandabeech Jun 2016 #107
The Presidential power of pardon is part of his Article II powers. He can pardon anyone, some argue leveymg Jun 2016 #112
Thank you for the nice summary. I' ve been off line for months. amandabeech Jun 2016 #124
Paul was in NZ for a while leveymg Jun 2016 #155
Perhaps many DUers will come to visit! n/t amandabeech Jun 2016 #168
I don't want to make another enemy. They are legion by now. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #132
None of that's going to happen. The news of the enquiry being concluded . . . brush Jun 2016 #141
good point, my pal joey. grasswire Jun 2016 #40
Cited article doesn't match your OP at all. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #22
Share with us how they differ? leveymg Jun 2016 #24
1) your headline is FAKE 2) and as usual your "spin" doesn't match the article. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #39
This isn't LBN. It's analysis of a news article and a document. I didn't "fake" anything. leveymg Jun 2016 #73
Of course this isn't LBN. Doesn't make your headline any less fake. Nor does it make emulatorloo Jun 2016 #89
We already know a vast number of facts the FBI will confirm because the State Dept, CIA and NSA have leveymg Jun 2016 #95
The stuff under the *** doesn't appear in the article at all...interesting. sharp_stick Jun 2016 #61
You seem to have the same reading issue as the guy above you. leveymg Jun 2016 #75
It's pathetic, that's all sharp_stick Jun 2016 #76
Pathetic. Why is it that you can't point to a single factual assertion that is any way in error? leveymg Jun 2016 #83
honestly, projecting "reading comprehension issues" on to others is not a winner for you. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #101
As I continue to say, if you have a problem with facts, correct me. Since you don't, that's telling leveymg Jun 2016 #108
Others in the threads are correcting you on the facts. You just deflect emulatorloo Jun 2016 #110
Give me one example. leveymg Jun 2016 #116
Gothmog's got some good stuff for you. Which you deal with by deflecting. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #119
Gothmog's full of empty bluster and ad hominem attacks. See #123, 129 below leveymg Jun 2016 #130
Your article guts and disproves your amusing theory on the need for culpable mental state Gothmog Jun 2016 #68
Once this is all over with and the FBI clears her of any illegal activity.. DCBob Jun 2016 #34
Do they have abstinence booths at adult film conventions? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #36
Ha! DCBob Jun 2016 #37
Do they serve liquor at temperance meetings? DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #43
Are you kidding. Anyone who is posting these lies and innuendos MariaThinks Jun 2016 #51
Well, I guess I'm safe then. The FBI report certainly won't "clear her of any illegal leveymg Jun 2016 #98
Hanging on to the bitter end. DCBob Jun 2016 #99
Your analysis is totally wrong yet again-this article guts your theory that no mens rea is required Gothmog Jun 2016 #53
Petraeus was convicted of violating Sec. 1924, which requires specific intent. He was charged w/793 leveymg Jun 2016 #77
Petraeus signed over a dozen NDA or confidentiality agreements Gothmog Jun 2016 #86
The Libertarian candidate for vice president and former director of the criminal division of ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #78
This is basic criminal law that is covered in the first your crim law class Gothmog Jun 2016 #87
When all you have is an animus toward Hillary Clinton and a failed candidate the whole world.... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #90
The Espionage Act is not a strict liability law and so no indictment will be forthcoming Gothmog Jun 2016 #97
That is entirely about Sec. 1924, which requires intent, but in Sec. 793 "gross negligence" applies leveymg Jun 2016 #123
Laypersons are so amusing when they try to make legal arguments Gothmog Jun 2016 #125
Again, the officials who actually decide these issues disagree with your vox.com "expert" leveymg Jun 2016 #129
LOL DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #142
Have someone read that material posted and explain it to you Gothmog Jun 2016 #164
im so tired of propaganda in a dem forum. eom artyteacher Jun 2016 #55
You do realize that the stuff under the *** is not in the politico story sharp_stick Jun 2016 #58
I'll repeat what I said to a couple people above. This isn't LBN, it's analysis of an FBI document leveymg Jun 2016 #79
so did that woman who slept with Petraeus steal the recording? Article says he recorded it and it wa Sunlei Jun 2016 #63
June 16th Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #80
Bernie is tired of this crap workinclasszero Jun 2016 #84
FBI isn't tired. 840high Jun 2016 #92
The search for the Indictment Fairy continues. JoePhilly Jun 2016 #94
Wall street crimes are a boogeyman, single payer is a unicorn, & FBI investigations involve a fairy. think Jun 2016 #106
I realized last night that the last time Clintons were president Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #118
+1 I'm never buying into that NEW DEMOCRAT/Clinton cult again, Voice for Peace bobthedrummer Jun 2016 #120
yes, that was another score... the first black president indeed Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #122
lolz you guys obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #113
great stuff, keep it coming Voice for Peace Jun 2016 #117
Exactly WHO or WHAT was damage by Hillary's emails? napi21 Jun 2016 #128
No actual damage isn't a defense under the Espionage Act. Those who raised it were convicted. leveymg Jun 2016 #133
I understand your point on the DUI. That's true, it's against the law to drive under the influence. napi21 Jun 2016 #139
It is against the law, however, to place classified information on an uncertified server. leveymg Jun 2016 #158
This message was self-deleted by its author LexVegas Jun 2016 #137
I've been here a decade longer than you, and fully intend to remain for another decade. Delete yours leveymg Jun 2016 #138
Cut, paste, glue together with lots of words Sparkly Jun 2016 #144
Welcome to the Brave New World of blogging. No ink-stained wretches, just greasy keys, leveymg Jun 2016 #147
Yeah right! jcgoldie Jun 2016 #145
Thanks for a long, thoughtful OP, leveymg. senz Jun 2016 #146
Thanks for that. leveymg Jun 2016 #150
I like that "Ronan" very apt analogy. gordianot Jun 2016 #152
Well most of us are fed up with all the nasty comments senz Jun 2016 #154
That whole thing is a flat out lie or a misunderstanding of the law jzodda Jun 2016 #156
So you think the emails about drone strikes were the only ones on her server? pdsimdars Jun 2016 #165
Yes that's correct... jzodda Jun 2016 #167
Five days nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #162
This paragraph sums up Clinton to me pdsimdars Jun 2016 #166
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