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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: How is Hillary going to unite the party? I don't see it happening. [View all]Miles Archer
(18,837 posts)125. It's not that easy to run against a President in their second term.
Three considerations:
1). She would really, really, really need to anger the party as a whole.
2). There would have to be a Democratic candidate able to run against her and win
3). She would need to be seen as a liability running against a charismatic and popular Republican challenger (not convinced that one actually exists) and any Democrat running against that Republican would have to create a strong level of assurance that they could win
I'm not a political expert...my fellow DUers may be able to point out 50 things wrong with my logic because I am simply not that well-versed in the rules and regulations.
But the short version is that she would have to anger / disappoint a majority, and any challenger would have to be dipped in gold.
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How committed to progressive values is someone if they help Trump win the presidency?
LonePirate
Jun 2016
#17
First, I didn't vote for her. Second, she defeated Sanders so she's the nominee.
LonePirate
Jun 2016
#59
scenarios are comparisons, stop bloviating. If we dont consider the damage of a Trump presidency,
larkrake
Jun 2016
#130
I guess you can't take the time to spell it out for us why Clinton should be supported.
Matt_R
Jun 2016
#200
Being a woman? Is that all you've got? Sarah Palin is a woman &I sure as hell wouldn't vote for her!
jillan
Jun 2016
#209
Its cool, a Clinton supporter used it on me a couple weeks ago, so its ok to point out.
Matt_R
Jun 2016
#221
Clinton hasn't been elected yet, so NO, I don't have the name of an appointee.
hamsterjill
Jun 2016
#229
she won 60% of dems that represent 29% of the population- her enthusiasm is in the basement and she
larkrake
Jun 2016
#109
not outside the umbrella of the party shes not. Her unfavorables are historic, but you believe what
larkrake
Jun 2016
#135
It's about reminding them that agreeing 90% of the time means you're on the SAME SIDE.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#2
You can't act until you're in power to do so, meaning there's nothing she can do to sway you.
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#46
But if you say "talk is cheap", why would you believe her if she said those things?
CrowCityDem
Jun 2016
#65
I'm not sure his supporters are as important as some may think. It doesn't seem that they can be
eastwestdem
Jun 2016
#7
What is your argument for non-Democrats voting in a Democratic presidential primary?
eastwestdem
Jun 2016
#30
You also pay for roads you don't use and hospitals you don't use and parks...etc.
randome
Jun 2016
#49
So should we all be able to vote in each of the primaries. I pay for the repubs primary as well,
eastwestdem
Jun 2016
#50
You also pay for roads you don't use and hospitals you don't use and parks...etc.
randome
Jun 2016
#51
This would be done more effectively from within. There is no way to know if those
eastwestdem
Jun 2016
#113
I have seen your posts the last couple of days and note you are a fellow Warriors fan.
Matt_in_STL
Jun 2016
#33
You're right. 10s of millions of Sanders supporters aren't important to the Democratic Party.
HooptieWagon
Jun 2016
#54
I think the RNC is seeing that too and may bump trump. A new face is where the frustrated will go
larkrake
Jun 2016
#114
Over 40% of Clinton voters in 08 said they wouldn't vote for Obama, its only 27% for Sanders voters
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#13
If you don't want to unite, then it won't happen. Fortunately Sanders is making the moves necessary
OKNancy
Jun 2016
#16
Sure, if you count things like Post Office namings as the same importance as war authorizations.
JonLeibowitz
Jun 2016
#134
You'll need to lose the attitude before you head downtown to organize Hills neighborhood canvassing
peace13
Jun 2016
#163
The only change that can be made is to be active in the Democratic Party and help shape it.
realmirage
Jun 2016
#169
she wont have a second term if she betrays us, and I feel she will betray the people
larkrake
Jun 2016
#118
By then there will likely be a progressive running with a shiny new answer to
larkrake
Jun 2016
#141
I think she knows exactly what it would take for her to be a one-term President...
Miles Archer
Jun 2016
#162
The percentage of Bernie's people that won't vote for her is statistically small and normal for
Ohioblue22
Jun 2016
#68
You are extremely in error. They wont vote her, they will enthusiastically support down ticket so
larkrake
Jun 2016
#119
Sanders' supporters have been ignoring downticket races in the primaries- Wisconsin was a huge
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#231
how many people are rational when two jobs dont pay the bills and kids are shot by cops?
larkrake
Jun 2016
#120
Really, the only ones I see being holdouts are here on DU, Reddit and Twitter
justiceischeap
Jun 2016
#84
I hate to say anything nice about Trump, but two of his children have married into
amandabeech
Jun 2016
#206
flamebait and a time waster. goodbye. you are the first person i've put on ignore.
MariaThinks
Jun 2016
#86
congress critters have to cheerlead for the party and against Trump, its a given
larkrake
Jun 2016
#126
She is already doing it. Many people are not hte handful on DU. Du is not indicative of the real
seabeyond
Jun 2016
#153
from the post I just read they laughing about Bernie bringing coffee to the white house
wendylaroux
Jun 2016
#156
Hillary haters like you will never see it. People see what they want to see.
redstateblues
Jun 2016
#177
By running her campaign and beating the opposition. The door is open and there's beer in the fridge
LuvLoogie
Jun 2016
#183
It is already starting. Big Dem players are already starting to pivot to the GE
AgadorSparticus
Jun 2016
#198
The same thing the Emperor planed to use to hold the Empire together with after desolving the Senate
TheKentuckian
Jun 2016
#225