2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Why Bernie can't drop out? Because he is being deceived. Repeatedly. [View all]cui bono
(19,926 posts)Where did I say I'm giving up and quitting? And nice use of the term 'old man'. You were almost sounding reasonable until you threw that in.
It is a fact that the Democratic Party is center now. Bill Clinton sold out to corporate money by embracing the DLC. From that we got NAFTA and welfare 'reform', mass incarceration and the repeal of Glass-Steagall. With Obama we got Wall Street appointed into the WH and SS put on the table and a hard sell on the TPP and more whistle blower prosecutions than all other presidents combined. With Hillary we will get the TPP, fracking and more war. The Dem leadership skewed this primary in favor of a corporate candidate.
What progressive movement is it that you think is alive "in this party with or without Bernie"? About 46% of the people of the party are involved in a progressive movement, but the leadership most definitely is not, nor is the presumptive nominee. They are the reason the progressive candidate did not prevail. They are the ones trying to kill the progressive movement. Rahm Emanuel called us "fucking retards" ffs.
And where do you get the idea that I or anyone else is "cutting and running"? You are making things up because that's the last thing I or anyone else I know is doing. This movement has just started. There are many Berniecrats who are running for local and lower level office. And they will be elected.
And if you are a Hillary supporter then you were not supporting the progressive in this race, you were supporting a corporate centrist. And as Obama defined that, that is a moderate Republican. He called himself that and Hillary is to the right of him.
So when you say "get off your high horse" I think you are projecting. Especially since nothing you said about me and how I think was correct and I have no idea where you got it from because you certainly did not get it from anything I posted.
And do you think anybody really, truly, cares if they are allowed to say what they really think on DU? Do you think we will fret over that? What difference does it make if we are allowed to speak our minds on here or not? All that will happen is it will free up my time and I won't have to have people accuse me of things I never said and of an attitude that I do not have, as you just did.
And btw... just looked at your profile and everything you said your stances are at the end are things Hillary is not fighting for but Bernie is. So why would you pick her to support? Makes absolutely no sense what so ever.
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