2016 Postmortem

DCBob

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40. Gross negligence.

Fri Jun 10, 2016, 02:05 PM

Jun 2016

Gross negligence is a legal concept which means serious carelessness. Negligence is the opposite of diligence, or being careful. The standard of ordinary negligence is what conduct deviates from the proverbial "reasonable person." By analogy, if somebody has been grossly negligent, that means they have fallen so far below the ordinary standard of care that one can expect, to warrant the label of being "gross." Prosser and Keeton describe gross negligence as being "the want of even slight or scant care", and note it as having been described as a lack of care that even a careless person would use. They further note that while some jurisdictions equate the culpability of gross negligence with that of recklessness, most simply differentiate it from simple negligence in its degree.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gross_negligence

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What Hillary did is nowhere near gross negligence.

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Preview of the FBI report. [View all] DCBob Jun 2016 OP

you are way closer to being right on this.... beachbum bob Jun 2016 #1

LOL. Funny, funny, funny. floriduck Jun 2016 #31

What we do know for certain is that Hillary's lawyer was Gen Petraeus's lawyer in his case. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #59

He got off without jail time, so his lawyer isn't half bad. But, he won't become President, either. leveymg Jun 2016 #62

What Petraeus did was willful and intentional which makes what he did much worse than politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #64

No, it's the other way around. The exposure of classified materials in HRCs case is far worse. leveymg Jun 2016 #65

That's your opinion. I'll stick to mine. I worked many years in the environment and I know how politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #67

Baloney Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #69

The damn investigation has gone on for 9 months. Either they have something or they don't still_one Jun 2016 #2

I suspect its going to come out in the next few weeks during the down time before the convention. DCBob Jun 2016 #3

I hope you are right Bob. This has gone on too long, and it is ridiculous. I also think your OP still_one Jun 2016 #5

Comey is being super careful and cautious.. for good reason. DCBob Jun 2016 #8

Comey has been reported as hating the Clintons 1-on-1 conversations. May be the opposite ashtonelijah Jun 2016 #14

That is what is a concern to me, that this is no longer and investigation, but a political maneuver still_one Jun 2016 #20

I'm getting frustrated too democrattotheend Jun 2016 #21

Isn't that the same stuff we hear every single time something is released? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #4

Your credibility on this matter is shot when you use kcjohn1 Jun 2016 #6

I guess you will be leaving on June 16 Gomez163 Jun 2016 #7

Here is what President Obama said about this matter.. DCBob Jun 2016 #10

OMG, from a RIGHT WING SOUCE. floriduck Jun 2016 #32

Obama is the source.. Fox News Interview. DCBob Jun 2016 #34

Journalists file multiple FOIA requests for the same document because tandem5 Jun 2016 #28

Was the report leaked by e-mail? JonathanRackham Jun 2016 #9

Nope.. my prediction.. DCBob Jun 2016 #12

There is absolutely no way LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #11

Very good point. DCBob Jun 2016 #13

I was just telling my husband the very same thing! MoonRiver Jun 2016 #17

That sums up my feelings as well Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #18

3. It helps the United States of America. senz Jun 2016 #23

Agreed, that seems pretty obvious. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #55

That is a very likely outcome Gothmog Jun 2016 #15

I just wish they would issue their report, so the country can move on. MoonRiver Jun 2016 #16

Exactly.. they do owe it to the nation to put this matter to rest.. DCBob Jun 2016 #19

I don't think they have interviewed her yet yeoman6987 Jun 2016 #27

They may not interview her if they think they have everything they need. DCBob Jun 2016 #46

I do, too. One thing is certain: PJMcK Jun 2016 #54

Agreed, this is getting a little ridiculous. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #58

I hope the FBI is also looking into the Foundation. senz Jun 2016 #22

So not a preview of the report, just an opinion piece. Kentonio Jun 2016 #24

That sounds pretty close to what it will actually be. MineralMan Jun 2016 #25

Your first point is a truism. tandem5 Jun 2016 #26

Res ipsa loquitur DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #29

Precisely. DCBob Jun 2016 #36

Wow I Somehow Missed That Stallion Jun 2016 #48

yes, mens rhea; "guilty mind" DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #63

That's as good as official since there will be no significant penalties. oasis Jun 2016 #30

FYI... these are my predictions.. no official source. DCBob Jun 2016 #35

I'm sure Hillary's already put the issue in her rear view mirror. oasis Jun 2016 #41

Yep. DCBob Jun 2016 #43

She did not do it knowingly or willingly? Skwmom Jun 2016 #33

Gross negligence. DCBob Jun 2016 #40

Using your own private service in your closet is not serious carelessness? PLUS, with the importance Skwmom Jun 2016 #47

Intent. DCBob Jun 2016 #49

She was aware that her Blackberry and server were uncertified for classified info, was warned leveymg Jun 2016 #60

You best hurry and gets this crap out of your system.. DCBob Jun 2016 #68

Incompetent rather than criminal? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #37

Not incompetent.. just didn't follow all the rules and regs perfectly. DCBob Jun 2016 #44

I suspect you are correct. NT Adrahil Jun 2016 #38

Key words: not official. Vinca Jun 2016 #39

Doesn't mean: not correct. DCBob Jun 2016 #42

Meh Tarc Jun 2016 #45

Sounds as though you've followed the case closely. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #50

Have to to keep up with the "indictment fairy" believers! DCBob Jun 2016 #52

Congrats! You just made a gross negligence case under 18 USC 793(f)(1) and (2). That's two felonies! leveymg Jun 2016 #51

What will you spend your time on when this all goes away?? DCBob Jun 2016 #53

Still hoping for the "absolution fairy" I guess tk2kewl Jun 2016 #66

I am only hoping the report comes out as soon as possible.. DCBob Jun 2016 #71

Only if you have no idea what gross negligence is. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #57

I have a hint 4U. If you want to know the prevailing standard, look at similar cases. Here's two. leveymg Jun 2016 #61

These cases are not similar. DCBob Jun 2016 #70

I read your OP and this instantly sprang to mind - Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #56