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2016 Postmortem

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kentuck

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Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:34 AM Jun 2016

Bernie Folks: What Happened to Our Shared Revolution? [View all]

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http://lnr.politicususa.com/bernie-folks-happened-shared-revolution-1069/

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Why are we not directing our passion towards educating those who think Donald Trump is a hero? And seriously, how crazy are the people, who after rational consideration, would rather vote for racist, xenophobic, sexist Trump simply because Bernie lost? How does this do anything other than throw our revolution under Trump’s ego bus? It is a selfish act.

Yes, Bernie lost. Hillary won, fair and square. She won because 3.5 million more people voted for her. She won more pledged delegates, etc. – she won by any objective metric. #BernieOrBust people: Ask yourselves – what’s more likely: that multiple conspiracy theories about voter fraud, voter suppression, corporate media control of the narrative, Wall Street dark money, etc., combined in a perfect storm to deny Bernie the nomination? Or, ask yourself – please — doesn’t maybe Occam’s Razor apply? The simplest explanation is frequently the best. This is a perfect example: more people voted for Hillary, even at the end. She defeated Bernie by over 30 points in New Jersey and by 13 points in California.

The number of people who turn out for a rally does not necessarily correspond to voter turnout. Trump thinks his rallies mean the whole country is ready to spread its political legs for him, yet both Bernie and Hillary got more votes than Trump in their respective primaries. But reality is not simply what you see around you, nor what Facebook chooses to show you in your news feed. (In fact, unless you choose otherwise, Facebook only shows you an algorithm-curated selection consisting solely of people who agree with you. This is not reality.)

Part of our revolution was about believing in facts, and science – not “truthiness,” as Stephen Colbert once said. The revolution includes rejecting the Republican insistence on betraying both facts and science for political gain, all at the expense of the average American. If you truly believe in a fact-based reality, you owe it to yourself to challenge the wave of political propaganda out there that demands you accept at face value charges that Hillary Clinton is a monstrous she-devil, ready to make you the next course at the feast of Wall Street.

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(on edit) I do not necessarily agree with most of these comments but I do agree that Hillary is not a "monstrous she-devil" and those that propagate that sort of propaganda only add fertilizer to the already deluded Trump supporters.
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Nothing happened to it. LWolf Jun 2016 #1
Right there with you Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #3
If Trump wins and appoints federal Judges and Justices... Adrahil Jun 2016 #16
I'm not going to quit, LWolf Jun 2016 #19
Trump would rip the bat and ball from your hands Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #25
Oh noes!!1!!! chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #28
No shit. Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #18
Thank you wolf. They think the presidency is most important, dont see the full picture swhisper1 Jun 2016 #23
The president appoints judges to SCOTUS and appeals courts that serve for 40 years in many cases. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29
Trump is not going to win- and I dont have a guy- I have the 1st woman but I know her faults. swhisper1 Jun 2016 #37
Exactly my thinking! chwaliszewski Jun 2016 #30
Ditto! I take umbridge at the Hillary won "fair and square." Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #33
The fair and square argument is going to make unity much, much more difficult. stillwaiting Jun 2016 #34
Precisely. This wasn't about winning one stupid, superficial election. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #35
It began in the 1990's...in Seattle WTO protests among other places Armstead Jun 2016 #38
You can go as far back as you care to, really. Levelers FTW! Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #39
I was more energized LWolf Jun 2016 #43
Sorry, Kentuck ... Trajan Jun 2016 #2
Yeah well I am sure those real families will be treated very well by the Donald. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #31
No Bernie supporter will vote Trump. PowerToThePeople Jun 2016 #4
I challenge that. Zen Democrat Jun 2016 #5
You are incorrect LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #7
Yes, challenge that, but not for THAT reason. Hortensis Jun 2016 #9
Oh, and the "division" in the Democratic Party Hortensis Jun 2016 #11
Your challenge is factually wrong. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #14
ND caucus total participants who voted = LESS THAN 400 people...TOTAL. yep those caususes really msongs Jun 2016 #17
Independents lancer78 Jun 2016 #22
Caucus states have very small turnouts...one primary has more votes than any caucus. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #32
You will not be able to stay home because.... GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #6
She won, I'll give you that. SamKnause Jun 2016 #8
Fair and square? 99Forever Jun 2016 #10
"Hillary won, fair and square" - uhm... Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #12
Yeah...I threw up in my mouth a little reading that one. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #36
FSMA instead of PUMA. nt Snotcicles Jun 2016 #44
I'm happy to vote for her, but "fair and square" doesn't describe the process bhikkhu Jun 2016 #45
you lost me at :fair and square: Hiraeth Jun 2016 #13
Premise fail. Educating the Trump supporters that he is a racist buffoon is not TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #15
I'll watch to see how Bernie's members of platform committee are treated. George Eliot Jun 2016 #20
what does the lection of clinton or trump have to do with the revolution Bernie is talking about? Vattel Jun 2016 #21
Great line: "Trump thinks his rallies mean the whole country is ready Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #24
"Hillary is not a 'monstrous she-devil'" DCBob Jun 2016 #26
Great let's get to work on that $15 minimum wage! Ash_F Jun 2016 #27
And campaign finance reform! Barack_America Jun 2016 #42
no one is voting for Trump G_j Jun 2016 #40
Who the fuck is Robert Zimmer and who is he to talk about shared revolution? aikoaiko Jun 2016 #41
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