2016 Postmortem

David__77

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86. "Won" is an evaluation at this point.

Sat Jun 11, 2016, 11:29 AM

Jun 2016

I agree that it is a fact that she received more votes than did Sanders. I believe that she will win the nomination at the Democratic convention.

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Even if you cannot vote for Hillary, can you at least acknowledge that she won [View all] theboss Jun 2016 OP

I'd say it's MATHEMATICALLY POSSIBLE that they can't... brooklynite Jun 2016 #1

Deleted. Response to wrong post. pat_k Jun 2016 #9

If you don't include the millions of people whose votes weren't counted, or didn't get to vote... reformist2 Jun 2016 #2

Which cities? metroins Jun 2016 #15

Are you suggestiong that black voters secretly love Bernie? theboss Jun 2016 #22

The complaints were not only about "cities" Armstead Jun 2016 #74

Oh give me a break. There weren't any such millions of votes not counted. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #31

Who didn't get to vote? tarheelsunc Jun 2016 #54

Even if true, in every case Clinton LOST votes Dem2 Jun 2016 #60

Congrats to Hillary and her team. bigwillq Jun 2016 #3

She is still short of the delegate threshold Trajan Jun 2016 #4

she got the most votes and the most delegates. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #7

You're both right in a way. InAbLuEsTaTe Jun 2016 #59

It's not over until it is over. tecelote Jun 2016 #78

Same reason Obama and Warren and Merkley geek tragedy Jun 2016 #82

She has. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #32

Dint think you could have summed that up any better. 😂 AgadorSparticus Jun 2016 #52

The rules change when the candidate is a woman. athena Jun 2016 #57

I really doubt that lancer78 Jun 2016 #66

It's easy to find excuses athena Jun 2016 #69

Oh, it is lancer78 Jun 2016 #84

Of course. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #5

I'd say she "won" since that's what officialdom claims Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #6

Will a polite shrug and "meh" suffice? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #8

I'll take it theboss Jun 2016 #17

$hillary didn't get more votes because the totals don't include... tandem5 Jun 2016 #10

Can you acknowledge that... pat_k Jun 2016 #11

Sure theboss Jun 2016 #18

I wish that more DUers... pat_k Jun 2016 #25

yes to all of those things. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #24

Deleted. pat_k Jun 2016 #26

What difference does it actually make? Hav Jun 2016 #12

Because you can have your own opinions but not your own facts theboss Jun 2016 #23

You make a good point. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #30

Fact - Hillary is winning, but has not won demwing Jun 2016 #43

Also, I have a question for you: Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #13

I want Warren as VP theboss Jun 2016 #16

If she causes Trump to have a stroke............... leftofcool Jun 2016 #47

I can't shake the feeling that Warren as VP would be the equivalent of Clinton muzzling her. nt VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #19

I have faith in Warren Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #28

She Won. floppyboo Jun 2016 #14

Why do you oppose closed primaries but have no problem with the voter suppression known as caucuses? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #34

Yeah, there's nothing more vote-suppressing than a caucus. Garrett78 Jun 2016 #39

I totally oppose caucuses. Are you trying to pick a fight? floppyboo Jun 2016 #49

No, I wasn't. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #85

And I'll take some blame here too - The Primaries vs primaries - can be confused. floppyboo Jun 2016 #87

Shes winning, but hasn't won demwing Jun 2016 #44

Who are you responding to? Maybe you should check first before you type. floppyboo Jun 2016 #50

You're right - I thought I was responding to the OP demwing Jun 2016 #63

hugs floppyboo Jun 2016 #72

No and Hell no. litlbilly Jun 2016 #20

I'll wait to see how the TrustVote lawsuit turns out before I decide. floriduck Jun 2016 #21

Case dismissed. MineralMan Jun 2016 #70

;-)) floriduck Jun 2016 #88

acceptance and acknowledgement are the first steps to recovery. some people never recover because msongs Jun 2016 #27

She won the battle, but won't win the war. azmom Jun 2016 #29

What the hell does that mean? theboss Jun 2016 #33

Means NO demwing Jun 2016 #45

This is what it means Trajan Jun 2016 #81

No, let's not beg the losers for a pat on the head. procon Jun 2016 #35

I agree! leftofcool Jun 2016 #48

No, because I think that what I witnessed was a manipulated outcome and the absence of a big Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #36

nope. there was fraud, disenfranchisement, and cheating. nt restorefreedom Jun 2016 #37

I acknowledge she won TSIAS Jun 2016 #38

This I like! Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #65

Yes, I do democrattotheend Jun 2016 #40

Nope demwing Jun 2016 #41

You realize that is a LIE, right? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #46

I admit it. And I WILL support her in the general. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #42

Never Pastiche423 Jun 2016 #51

I will acknowledge she has an unsurpassable lead in popular and delegate votes aikoaiko Jun 2016 #53

^this^ floppyboo Jun 2016 #55

I will acknowledge that HC is the candidate after the convention, but I don't think I will call it a Todays_Illusion Jun 2016 #83

I voted for Sanders. And I admit she won fair and square. ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #56

+1 itsrobert Jun 2016 #58

Sure and plausibly but I think the process sucks so much ass in general that TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #61

Sounds like you're trying to put yourself to sleep. bvf Jun 2016 #62

She won; she got more votes... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #64

No, she didn't win. Not until the convention. Waiting For Everyman Jun 2016 #67

no and no: she has not won before the unpledged ones cast their votes. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #68

No.... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #71

As soon as she actually has. But that doesn't mean it will have been won fairly. nt Live and Learn Jun 2016 #73

She won. JustABozoOnThisBus Jun 2016 #75

You do know that Bernie won 72% in Washington. pdsimdars Jun 2016 #76

I'll give you that IF you acknowledge that even though he didn't "win"..... Armstead Jun 2016 #77

Sorry, I don't trust anything about our elections any more. kayakjohnny Jun 2016 #79

It is not official laserhaas Jun 2016 #80

"Won" is an evaluation at this point. David__77 Jun 2016 #86