2016 Postmortem

Betty Karlson

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142. The realisation has dawned that the Bernie movement is still going strong - and they hate it.

Sun Jun 12, 2016, 11:09 AM

Jun 2016

They hate that there will be a millions strong movement holding Clinton's feet to the fire every step of the way. They hate that the party will go left, not further right. They hate it that even if they manage one more lurge to the right in 2016, the Berning movement will drag the party leftward from 2018 onward. They hate that corporation-coddling Dems will be primaried, DWS-style, from here on. They hate that more Debbie-style shenanigans will come at the risk of splitting the party.

In short: they hate that we have a point and will continue to make it. And again. And again. And again.

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Hey HRC supporters--why the continued attacks on Bernie? Party unity? [View all] panader0 Jun 2016 OP

The small vocal minority on both sides continue the fight Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #1

I usually set them free after the primaries, but I am not so sure this year. corkhead Jun 2016 #37

Personally, I'd wait until after the 4th of July. Write off June entirely. Blue_Adept Jun 2016 #42

Something I learned from previous experience is once the primaries end corkhead Jun 2016 #48

They rest underground for a cycle, the come out in swarms = "shitcadas" Bongo Prophet Jun 2016 #135

What else do they know how to do? What other gear do they have? villager Jun 2016 #2

They should be praising their glorious leader. panader0 Jun 2016 #11

"Glorious leader"? zappaman Jun 2016 #62

I don't think anyone minds Bernie representing his people Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #3

He's playing his hand the best way he knows how. panader0 Jun 2016 #8

In that case he can't be surprised by reaction. yardwork Jun 2016 #20

I don't know who sent you that. This is Bernie's 6/8 email. I don't see Hillary's name at all. merrily Jun 2016 #85

You're right, this time he didn't attack Hillary by name, as he often has before. yardwork Jun 2016 #90

So you admit he did not attack Hillary... ljm2002 Jun 2016 #104

The implication of his email is certainly that Hillary is (insert terrible synonym of your choice). yardwork Jun 2016 #105

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #109

Wow. You are calling me a liar? yardwork Jun 2016 #114

IF you paid attention RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #128

I receive his emails and read most of them. I've seen zero that fit your description in merrily Jun 2016 #141

You should post the email of Sander's calling Clinton Satan. notadmblnd Jun 2016 #130

Except he's not bashing her and when in the same scenario in 08, Hillary took four days to Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #10

OK,Ihave been sick but Idon't see the bashing of Hillary. Criticizing someone on their stance is hollysmom Jun 2016 #13

Fine, call it criticizing Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #15

excuse me - are you supposed to just pretend taht you don't care about people anymore because the hollysmom Jun 2016 #18

Bernie showed that eh cared about people Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #25

HRC made the "not qualified" comment before Bernie. panader0 Jun 2016 #41

Why do so many seem to not get that? stillwaiting Jun 2016 #72

But Bernie owes Hillary nothing. grasswire Jun 2016 #53

Please explain Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #61

you aren't getting it at all grasswire Jun 2016 #66

Actually, I don't think you get it Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #95

I think maybe you oughta take a tour of social media today grasswire Jun 2016 #97

Wake me when Facebook posts create actual change Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #99

and that remark is why politics will never be the same again grasswire Jun 2016 #107

Yep, just read about that Proud Public Servant Jun 2016 #118

If your fantasy leftynyc Jun 2016 #70

apples and oranges nt grasswire Jun 2016 #76

Uh - no leftynyc Jun 2016 #78

You are stuck in the 90s. grasswire Jun 2016 #81

I asked you a simple question leftynyc Jun 2016 #84

Unity...with commies? They don't want that. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #4

Who is the commie? NCTraveler Jun 2016 #5

Any sanders supporter. Or did you miss tje red baiting? nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #9

He isn't a commie and have called out red baiting during this process. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #14

You asked, I answered nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #24

The unity is going very well. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #26

That people called Sanders a commmie even this moring nadinbrzezinski Jun 2016 #31

I'm sorry they did such a thing. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #35

They are just following the lead of some party leaders, mmonk Jun 2016 #6

I don't see what I am doing as attacking Sanders. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #7

Why attack at all? When you keep landing punches afer the fight is won, that's just bashing. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #17

As I said, I don't thik I really have been. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #21

Hint: as long as your principles are in part based on what others are doing they are not really Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #39

"So when you try to paint your side as super angelic" NCTraveler Jun 2016 #45

I guess the relevant question is frazzled Jun 2016 #12

I think the relevant question in the thread is the one the OP asked. Avoiding that question to Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #19

It's time for both sides to stand down and unite to defeat Trump. n/t cynatnite Jun 2016 #16

Bill said one side is toast. Ino Jun 2016 #22

I don't see that happening, not by a long shot. pinebox Jun 2016 #40

It's not up to Bernie or his supporters to beat Trump. grasswire Jun 2016 #57

+1. n/t bvf Jun 2016 #64

No one said that it was on Bernie or his supporters to do that job... cynatnite Jun 2016 #75

you can't scare Bernie or his supporters with Trump grasswire Jun 2016 #79

You think Hillary is asking a man to bail her out??? cynatnite Jun 2016 #86

well, no grasswire Jun 2016 #87

Well, your stronger candidate didn't win and will be supporting Hillary. n/t cynatnite Jun 2016 #88

more's the pity if that happens grasswire Jun 2016 #91

You have until the 16th to get the sour grapes out of your system. Good luck with that. n/t cynatnite Jun 2016 #92

well, no grasswire Jun 2016 #93

Where on earth do you get that I'm bullying you? cynatnite Jun 2016 #96

Yeah, I do! grasswire Jun 2016 #102

Where are you seeing that she is asking for a man to bail her out? cynatnite Jun 2016 #106

It's not sexist at all. grasswire Jun 2016 #108

She definitely garnered the votes and had the strength to beat your guy... cynatnite Jun 2016 #111

not the point grasswire Jun 2016 #113

It's not strength... Ino Jun 2016 #122

The majority of the voters favored her... cynatnite Jun 2016 #124

I'm talking about very real media/DNC bias & voter suppression... Ino Jun 2016 #131

Clinton supporters have learned to be blind to the planned coronation. That Guy 888 Jun 2016 #137

Hey Benie supporters - why the continued attacks on Hillary? Party unity? LonePirate Jun 2016 #23

Um, exactly who needs who to win in November? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #29

Bad behavior - including blackmail - is not warranted from either side. Stop excusing it. LonePirate Jun 2016 #44

I am not excusing anything. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #56

blackmail? grasswire Jun 2016 #59

Funniest thing about this.. peace13 Jun 2016 #98

that's a possibility... grasswire Jun 2016 #103

I'm not afraid of either one. Marr Jun 2016 #133

Does Bernie need Clinton supporters votes in November? HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #49

So you're using blackmail to excuse bad behavior? Doubling down on the bad behavior, eh? LonePirate Jun 2016 #54

Strawman argument. HooptieWagon Jun 2016 #58

welcome to du and my ignore list. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #89

Right? I'm noticing that this thread about attacks on BS is full of attacks on Hillary supporters. Squinch Jun 2016 #134

Because according to some stuff I've read here it seems some think Bernie's supporters are white azurnoir Jun 2016 #27

I honestly cannot count how many times this cycle's made me white. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #139

She's the one that will need help to win the GE... TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #28

If Bernie was the presumptive nominee jamese777 Jun 2016 #63

I've been in reconciliation mode for a while now Buzz cook Jun 2016 #30

I have a friend who attends a fair number of local sports events... RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #32

And that is what this is. Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #46

Poor Winners jamese777 Jun 2016 #69

Mebbe so... RufusTFirefly Jun 2016 #71

Its weird. I wonder if they are Trump trolls come here to keep the hate going? Peregrine Took Jun 2016 #33

There were plenty of long term posters around here that I previously respected stillwaiting Jun 2016 #74

Why the continued attacks on future President Hillary Clinton? It's still on both sides. Sancho Jun 2016 #34

It's self hate coyote Jun 2016 #36

There may be an element of fear too. panader0 Jun 2016 #43

Last night our county's Democratic Party phoned me. edgineered Jun 2016 #38

Because they are bullies WolverineDG Jun 2016 #47

GMAFB! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #67

Continuing to attack someone & their supporters WolverineDG Jun 2016 #119

Take your time. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #120

"it's more like PUMA" sufrommich Jun 2016 #50

LOL---HRC needs it a lot more than Bernie. panader0 Jun 2016 #51

++ in many, many ways. grasswire Jun 2016 #83

Because they know he is right. alarimer Jun 2016 #52

So you think she'll get elected...good to know brooklynite Jun 2016 #101

Just like conservatives in mainstream felix_numinous Jun 2016 #55

The Primaries Aren't Over jamese777 Jun 2016 #60

In fairness, it really has nothing to do with Hillary. QC Jun 2016 #65

I think it is wrong for HRC supporters to bash Sanders. And for Sanders supporters to bash HRC. onenote Jun 2016 #68

Why the continued attacks on the Nominee Hillary? Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #73

They know something isn't quite right... AzDar Jun 2016 #77

because they can. Same reason a dog licks his junk. Cobalt Violet Jun 2016 #80

Clearly you have failed to review the op's just on this front page Sheepshank Jun 2016 #82

I ignore hateful posts from both sides now... JSup Jun 2016 #94

Creating your own self-fulfilling prophecy is entertaining, yes? LanternWaste Jun 2016 #100

I'm seeing plenty of anti-Hillary OPs. So you may want to oasis Jun 2016 #110

Convenient SheenaR Jun 2016 #112

I support you. grasswire Jun 2016 #115

I'm for a mutual ceasefire. nt oasis Jun 2016 #116

Bernie supporters, why is your guy so ungracious in defeat? Party unity? lanlady Jun 2016 #117

"our country's first female nominee for president from a major party" Ino Jun 2016 #123

I could ask you the same thing? Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #121

Because they hate liberals and liberal policies...see the "free stuff" meme and TheKentuckian Jun 2016 #125

Have you read the comments bernie supporters are now saying about Warren? MariaThinks Jun 2016 #126

The last time America elected a Dem Socialist, he was so popular they had to invent term limits. valerief Jun 2016 #127

He's earned the right to stay in... Beartracks Jun 2016 #129

"I wish you evil Hillary people would leave us saintly Bernie Fans alone" Bill USA Jun 2016 #132

You know why. What kind of person likes to divide people all the time and never has anything nice Rex Jun 2016 #136

Vote blue no matter who... Panich52 Jun 2016 #138

You all post attacks on Clinton Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #140

The realisation has dawned that the Bernie movement is still going strong - and they hate it. Betty Karlson Jun 2016 #142

Some bitter Bernie people are still shouting and some Hillary folks are shouting back. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #143

Eh...for some it earns a mediocre paycheck from David Brock. NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #144