Do you think that Hillary will switch positions to being pro-TPP?

[karynnj]

80. No, but I do think that she will find a position that is neither a total "no" or "yes"

Unlike Sanders and many here who are 100% against all trade deals that have ever happened, Clinton is very much in the same position as Democrats - like her husband, Obama, Gore and Kerry that, even when they spoke of the problems in some trade agreements, have considered that, done better, trade deals could be a force for good.

I admit that I agree with that position and think that Sanders and others label the problems caused by globalization as having been caused by the trade deals. In fact, in the primaries, Sanders blamed the trade deal for the problems of Detroit. In fact, before the auto industry moved outside the US, it moved to the union hostile Southern states. In BOTH cases, you have companies chasing ever cheaper labor. Companies started to move manufacturing outside the US long before NAFTA.

As it is not illegal to move production (or as we all hear - service) outside the US. We can not fight it by high tariffs as would have been done a century ago. Retaliation would occur and US exports would suffer. In fact, with TPP, removal of trade barriers impacts the other countries more than the US because they currently have more trade barriers with regards to the US than we have for their products. Various people have spoken of the environmental and workers rights provisions that are stronger in this deal than any earlier one.

Given that companies will outsource if their is a clear economic advantage to doing so, the way to compete would be to rebuild American infrastructure and to fund education better. Both would help to make paying higher US wages part of what is a competitive alternative to outsourcing and incurring the various costs of managing something half way around the world and then having to ship back the product.

I would not be surprised if HRC said that TPP could be renegotiated and tweeked to be better for workers, here and abroad, and called for the supplementary bill that would provide resources for states and workers negatively impacted. I would be shocked if she called for no new trade bills and the elimination of the ones that exist.