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choie

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88. You can't compare the ant-Islam rhetoric
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 03:51 PM
Jun 2016

And the anti-Christian rhetoric..since September 11th, the hatred of Moslems in this country has been virulent.

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Seems pretty straight forward. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2016 #1
It does. nt NWCorona Jun 2016 #2
I don't see anything that people can really criticize much Proud Liberal Dem Jun 2016 #7
I'm unsure about this tbh vdogg Jun 2016 #101
I LOVE Obama. I sometimes disagree with him and this is one place I do. It's such a Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #120
Good people on the left should say it. I truly believe the world would be safer without religion. JRLeft Jun 2016 #104
It would be nice to believe so, but I think human nature is the problem Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #121
Religion is responsible for mega death. JRLeft Jun 2016 #123
Well, they were an awful band Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #124
Yes they were, men made up religion to control women. JRLeft Jun 2016 #127
There goes that "issue" BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #3
war hawk... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #4
GOP talking points? leftynyc Jun 2016 #15
remove Islamic, why not just state 'extremism'? HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #19
When it's involving leftynyc Jun 2016 #20
'skittish'? HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #24
Want to give answering my leftynyc Jun 2016 #25
Because Christians are a majority bonemachine Jun 2016 #35
Well, I don't see that as leftynyc Jun 2016 #36
It's the same difference... bonemachine Jun 2016 #40
I get the concept leftynyc Jun 2016 #43
...and all men are equal and should not be judged by the color of their skin bonemachine Jun 2016 #46
Thank You. Phlem Jun 2016 #128
You can't compare the ant-Islam rhetoric choie Jun 2016 #88
Not on DU it hasn't leftynyc Jun 2016 #91
Because Islam is closely associated to race PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #98
I'm not Christian leftynyc Jun 2016 #110
Just curious, what race do you "closely associate" with Islam? jack_krass Jun 2016 #111
you seem to be trying to say something clever PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #116
What war? This is about GUNS annavictorious Jun 2016 #42
deflection indeed... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #44
Yes and no karynnj Jun 2016 #48
The essential difference is that these particular terrorists Haveadream Jun 2016 #115
Like DU fucking matters Scootaloo Jun 2016 #106
RadicalIslamism is different than Islamic. bettyellen Jun 2016 #58
really?... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #65
yes, it means a radical political and militant interest in Islam. She was wise to differentiate. bettyellen Jun 2016 #67
Islam-ism. That means it is political- for militant expansion of Islam.... Islamic is different. bettyellen Jun 2016 #68
christian fundamentalism radicalism HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #72
Triangulation nope, it is using the correct terminology! Islam is not political, Islamism is. bettyellen Jun 2016 #76
words, or more to the point, terminology matters... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #78
RWers villify Islam, so no... she did not use the term but instead corrected it. bettyellen Jun 2016 #79
hence the triangulation... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #87
Oh please- YOU misquoted her as if she said the same thing as Trump. Bullshit. She is pushing for bettyellen Jun 2016 #89
I didn't mention Trump, you brought him in.. I have no reason to bring him into convo... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #90
You said she used the word Islamic, likened it to RW (Trump's) terminology.Wrong on both counts. bettyellen Jun 2016 #94
again, no I did not... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #97
Islamic extremism is not a problem. these people aren't Muslim. Exilednight Jun 2016 #41
And yet leftynyc Jun 2016 #45
And yet Exilednight Jun 2016 #71
Cheer? Where did I "cheer" leftynyc Jun 2016 #80
Except McVeigh identified as an agnostic, not a Christian ButterflyBlood Jun 2016 #75
Doesn't that make leftynyc Jun 2016 #92
that is not true. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #113
Sanders: ISIS must be destroyed TwilightZone Jun 2016 #17
BIG difference HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #22
Did you even read the OP? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #32
read and responded... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #37
No, what she said was that the right-wing meme doesn't matter. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #82
She's triangulating... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #93
No, she's dismissing the RW terminology as the bullshit that it is. -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #95
again, triangulation... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #99
So you are saying only ISIS are radical islamists? Sheepshank Jun 2016 #118
...corrected... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #119
This. It is pandering to those hateful Republicans scscholar Jun 2016 #52
exactly... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #59
The right has a reason they want everyone to say this Fumesucker Jun 2016 #5
spot on HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #8
It's the republican's job to define the allowed parameters of discourse on every topic. arcane1 Jun 2016 #50
+1 shanti Jun 2016 #107
Pandering to the crowd whose policies lead to terrorism Kelvin Mace Jun 2016 #6
She is pandering to a crowd who would never, ever vote for her AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #109
Is there a "tough talk" gap between Hillary and Trump? Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #9
Yes, thank goodness. Orsino Jun 2016 #53
Did she just admit she feels Obama is wrong not to say "radical Islam"? Barack_America Jun 2016 #10
Nope, she said its semantics and won't solve the problem. Hope that helps. BootinUp Jun 2016 #11
Would she call someone who bombs an abortion clinic a Christian terrorist? Armstead Jun 2016 #21
Sure, she bought into it while calling it demogoguery. Try again. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #26
Why do you think President Obama didn't pander to the right wing by using that term? Armstead Jun 2016 #28
For the same reason she explained. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #31
Islamism is different than Islamic. bettyellen Jun 2016 #96
exactly still_one Jun 2016 #54
She didn't say it expllicitly, but the GOP dog whistle says he's afraid to say it Miles Archer Jun 2016 #13
"Radical Islamism" vs. "radical Islam." David__77 Jun 2016 #12
This meme is "radical Islamism-ism." n/t Orsino Jun 2016 #51
Tapped a pin into their balloon of an argument C_U_L8R Jun 2016 #14
Heaven Help Us Octafish Jun 2016 #16
+1000000!!!#!##!!!!! KPN Jun 2016 #102
Excellent. This woman takes no shit from Trump or the GOP. DCBob Jun 2016 #18
So Obama was a lily livered coward for not using the term? Armstead Jun 2016 #23
Who said that? Hillary and the poster you replied to? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #33
Armstead's point is that Obama is *not* a coward and he had good reasons not to use that language JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #105
Of course I never said or thought or implied any such thing. DCBob Jun 2016 #34
No, Hillary was basically saying fuck that bullshit, it doesn't matter what we call it. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #83
Yay.rah rah, shes a real.badass. Bet shell bomb the shit out of several small countries jack_krass Jun 2016 #112
I'm fine with that. Adrahil Jun 2016 #27
disappointing to see the Donald Trump/Tulsi Gabbard demagoguing pay off here nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #29
What's your problem with Gabbard? runaway hero Jun 2016 #61
she's been the most outspoken Congressional Democrat on this subject geek tragedy Jun 2016 #62
fair enough runaway hero Jun 2016 #64
She does know that Obama doesn't say "radical Islam" Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #30
She did not claim Isis "planned it". Read it again. bettyellen Jun 2016 #38
She needs to demonize them before she bombs them... Yurovsky Jun 2016 #56
Exactly loyalsister Jun 2016 #66
I hope people understand that there are "radicals" in every religion. Terrorism is Southerncomfy Jun 2016 #39
Pandering to Trump? B Calm Jun 2016 #47
I don't see a problem here Tarc Jun 2016 #49
Amazing some of these responses. It was like Maddow once said on her show, if Hillary found the still_one Jun 2016 #57
especially from people who treat Tulsi Gabbard like she's Joan of Arc nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #63
Good for her - stop letting us be bullied into not connecting the dots. patsimp Jun 2016 #55
And more to the point, let's take away the R's power by taking away their "magic words" Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #125
She's right. Throd Jun 2016 #60
She's a great one for following. Orsino Jun 2016 #69
The instant move to muslim baiting is fucking disgusting bonemachine Jun 2016 #70
The killer pit himself against those he killed. David__77 Jun 2016 #86
Good for her. Lizzie Poppet Jun 2016 #73
Finally! grossproffit Jun 2016 #74
big talk for someone STILL wanting to dump money and guns into Syrian rebels after the first try at MisterP Jun 2016 #77
And I'll say the words "FBI criminal investigation" pdsimdars Jun 2016 #81
And I'll say the words "three days" -nt- Lord Magus Jun 2016 #84
Let's see if we will be able to say that after the 16th lol! NWCorona Jun 2016 #85
Pukes have been whining that Obama won't use the words"radical" Islam for years now. Autumn Jun 2016 #100
Extremely discouraging. KPN Jun 2016 #103
Trump is an idiot AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #108
She should say it. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #114
Being a self-hating gay man is the impetus, and a juvenile society NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #117
she said the words azurnoir Jun 2016 #122
Has HRC ever said anything about Christian terror? guillaumeb Jun 2016 #126
Dog whistle for her friends in the Military industrial complex, I got your back! more war coming! insta8er Jun 2016 #129
Hillary shouldn't have took the bait NWCorona Jun 2016 #130
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