Welcome to DU!
The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards.
Join the community:
Create a free account
Support DU (and get rid of ads!):
Become a Star Member
Latest Breaking News
General Discussion
The DU Lounge
All Forums
Issue Forums
Culture Forums
Alliance Forums
Region Forums
Support Forums
Help & Search
2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: You know what's WORSE than mass murder? [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)211. That is one goal, certainly. I'd also like to defeat Republicanism.
The part that uses humanity as cannon fodder, especially.
9 Shameless Warmongers Who Call Fox News Home
By , Media Matters for America
Posted on September 5, 2010, Printed on September 6, 2010
http://www.alternet.org/story/148086 /
1. Karl Rove...
White House Iraq Group was formed to set strategy for going to war with Iraq.
The Washington Post reported in 2003 (accessed via Nexis) that the White House Iraq Group (WHIG) was formed in August 2002 to set strategy for each stage of the confrontation with Baghdad. A senior official who participated in its work called it an internal working group, like many formed for priority issues, to make sure each part of the White House was fulfilling its responsibilities. Part of the WHIGs mission, according to the Post, was to decide what to demand of the United Nations in the presidents Sept. 12 <2002> address to the General Assembly, when to take the issue to Congress, and how to frame the conflict with Iraq in the midterm election campaign that began in earnest after Labor Day. Rove was a regular participant in this group.
WHIG promoted view that Saddam had weapons of mass destruction and was seeking more. The Los Angeles Times reported on August 25, 2005, (accessed via Nexis) that the WHIG promoted the view that Hussein had weapons of mass destruction and was seeking more
SNIP...
4. Bill Kristol
Kristol: American and alliance forces will be welcomed in Baghdad as liberators.
In testimony delivered February 7, 2002, before the Senate Committee on Foreign Relations, Kristol said:
(A)s in Kabul but also as in the Kurdish and Shiite regions of Iraq in 1991, America and alliance forces will be welcomed in Baghdad as liberators. Indeed, reconstructing Iraq may prove to be a less difficult task than the challenge of building a viable state in Afghanistan.
The political, strategic and moral rewards would also be even greater. A friendly, free, and oil-producing Iraq would leave Iran isolated and Syria cowed; the Palestinians more willing to negotiate seriously with Israel; and Saudi Arabia with less leverage over policymakers here and in Europe. Removing Saddam Hussein and his henchmen from power presents a genuine opportunity one President Bush sees clearly to transform the political landscape of the Middle East.
CONTINUED with details on each warmonger...
http://www.alternet.org/story/148086/9_shameless_warmongers_who_call_fox_news_home
Welcome to DU, lapucelle! You may note I don't like Buy Partisan warmongering, especially.
Oh. Kristol's partner in War Inc, Robert Kagan, endorsed Ms. Clinton recently.
TopBack to the top of the page
AlertAlert this post for a rule violation
ShareGet links to this post
PowersThere are no powers you can use on this post
Cannot edit, recommend, or reply in locked discussions
Edit history
Please sign in to view edit histories.
228 replies
= new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight:
NoneDon't highlight anything
5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
RecommendedHighlight replies with 5 or more recommendations
Yes, we know because she is perfect as we all well know and has never done wrong.
LiberalArkie
Jun 2016
#7
Which makes her subsequent actions as a Secretary of State all the more questionable.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#89
gotta love that bernie guy voting to pay for all this killing every year, year after year nt
msongs
Jun 2016
#3
What grief process is that? I am continuing to work on getting progressives elected
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#160
and Sanders voted to keep the troops in Afghanistan also. However, it isn't as vile as this OP who
still_one
Jun 2016
#103
From my point of view, you are wrong. Now, immediately, is the time to politicize this
floppyboo
Jun 2016
#179
Right now the Democrats don't have the majority in both house of Congress, so I
still_one
Jun 2016
#192
with a bill you need Congress. The question is could he do an executive action?
still_one
Jun 2016
#190
War is mass murder on an epic scale. At least one candidate apparently doesn't get that. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#4
You mean the onew that haven't been used. Betting Hillary will find a way to use them. nt
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#10
Oh so its ok to build weapons of mass destruction and still remain holy as long as you don't
workinclasszero
Jun 2016
#15
Are you saying Hillary wouldn't want these? These were being built with or without Bernie,
Live and Learn
Jun 2016
#19
I can't find it now. I thought back when Charlie Hebdo suspect said Abu Ghraib made him attack.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#214
Bernie said he would continue to use drones. Just that he would do it better. i bet Obama felt the
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#100
There's no comparison to what Sec. Clinton is reported to have done with drones.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#193
How are we supposed to talk about it, other than to condemn the illegal drone strikes
Hydra
Jun 2016
#219
My momma use to always say "Turn tragedy into political opportunism before the bodies are identified
qdouble
Jun 2016
#17
do these two things really need to be compared - one being "worse" than the other?
DrDan
Jun 2016
#22
Three days. 72 hours. 0.42 Weeks. 0.09863 Months. 4320 Minutes. 259200 Seconds. *
NurseJackie
Jun 2016
#44
The poster has a history of linking to homophobic conspiracy theorist writers...
SidDithers
Jun 2016
#92
Yeah, I don't knwo why Bernie voted for Afghanistan...bad decision Bernie. nt
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#34
Yeah, because a few words on a computer screen may remind people not to kill one another in war.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#51
+ a million. A trifecta of being tasteless, tone deaf and absolutely disgusting
Number23
Jun 2016
#130
I didn't order an illegal, immoral, unnecessary and disastrous invasion of Iraq.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#97
Yeah. I'm trying to stop wars for profit and Dr Hobbitstein is pointing out my hypocrisy.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#64
nope, that isn't what he is saying. He is saying you are using the tragedy in Florida in a not so
still_one
Jun 2016
#101
Congratulations on yet another mindless comparison based on absolutely ...
MrMickeysMom
Jun 2016
#114
''Politics'' being how the wars just keep going and going, no matter who we elect.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#196
War is mass murder, I've taken a verbal beating for saying that here over the years.
Rex
Jun 2016
#108
How DARE you!!! I had friends wounded last night, and friends who lost loved ones
ashtonelijah
Jun 2016
#137
SHAME ON YOU--YOU USE THIS HORRIBLE EVENT TO DISS THE PRESUMPTIVE DEMOCRATIC
riversedge
Jun 2016
#145
Not as wildly misleading as your post defending Bush, a warmonger like his father and grandfather.
Octafish
Jun 2016
#225
Who's lying, anigbrowl? You wrote Bush really meant something other than making money off war...
Octafish
Jun 2016
#227
Are you under the impression that Sanders is a pacifist who will pull back all US troops?
brooklynite
Jun 2016
#221