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2016 Postmortem

JonLeibowitz

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5. Agreed, but I try to think of the continuum as fixed with individual players operating on the line

Reply to arely staircase (Reply #4)

Tue Jun 14, 2016, 03:51 PM

Jun 2016

That is, Bush being hard-right doesn't shift the so-called Overton window to the right. Left-Right still exists as a theoretical concept, even if no politician wants to represent a true leftist foreign policy. Specifically, Bush being far-right doesn't mean a centrist Obama is actually Left.

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Clinton, Obama, Sanders all scorch Trumps bigoted ass. [View all] arely staircase Jun 2016 OP

Clinton's foreign policy is center-right. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #1

arguably. then Obama would be dead center. To me she is more dead center and he is center left. arely staircase Jun 2016 #2

I agree, Obama is center-left to (arguably) center JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #3

sadly the move to drones (and away from large land invasions) was a move to the left. arely staircase Jun 2016 #4

Agreed, but I try to think of the continuum as fixed with individual players operating on the line JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #5

ok, droning people instead of killing many more in a large Asian land invasion is not "Left" arely staircase Jun 2016 #6

Yes, Sanders has always (well, maybe not as a rebellious Mayor) been center-left to left. Cheers. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #9

We do not have center left foreign policy in this country even Bernie is center right. JRLeft Jun 2016 #11

And Hillary is then far-right and the GOP is extreme-right? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #12

The GOP is insane, but Hillary is far right on foreign policy. JRLeft Jun 2016 #14

Sanders? Where? robbedvoter Jun 2016 #7

CNN about an hour ago. arely staircase Jun 2016 #8

Sanders? He's incapable of shifting from his talking points, the ones we can all recite from heart. SharonClark Jun 2016 #10

You would prefer him to not assail Trump? JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #13