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2016 Postmortem

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Freddie Stubbs

(29,853 posts)
Wed Jun 15, 2016, 12:30 PM Jun 2016

So, we basically have a losing candidate taking a victory lap [View all]

Secretary Clinton has won the popular vote, has a solid majority of pledged delegates, and the support of a large majority of superdelegates. She has won in every every measurable metric. But unfortunately Senator Sanders is refusing to acknowledge that he has lost, stubbornly continuing like a WWII Japanese soldier hiding in the jungle refusing to believe that their Emperor would surrender to the inferior Americans.

Sanders' insistence on making demands even after being rejected by Democratic voters is the height of arrogance.

Hillary is already leading Trump by a wide margin even without the endorsement of Sanders. Sanders is risking overplaying his hand. If Hillary calls his bluff and wins without him she will be more emboldened to tack toward the center, knowing that she can do without the support of fringe politicians like Sanders.

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The time has come and gone for Bernie to exhibit humility and grace. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Way too late for that already workinclasszero Jun 2016 #14
to be fair, some significant percentage of Dems voted for Bernie Cal Carpenter Jun 2016 #2
He could clearly state that he fully supports the nominee AND will fight for a progressive platform brooklynite Jun 2016 #16
He could.... workinclasszero Jun 2016 #37
He has to concede. Otherwise he mounts a shadow campaign to show how great he is. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #56
He won't Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #104
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #3
In this upcoming general election, she had better have as much money as she can get tonyt53 Jun 2016 #4
Very true. The gusto with which these Reagan democrats loathe the Left is astounding. zonkers Jun 2016 #5
Why was post 3 hidden? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #55
You can read the post right? Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #57
Because 5 jurors are tired of the BS. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #86
Did you read it? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #92
The one thing I would change is "psychopaths" and change it to "sycophants" Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #97
agree 100% 840high Jun 2016 #106
Yep, my thoughts exactly CBGLuthier Jun 2016 #128
+ ∞ Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #130
All that aside, I still don't see a reason that the post should have been hidden Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #140
Me neither and I am glad you pointed out the strange hide. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #141
This place is getting a little creepy Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #143
Well this November it will be turkey time. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #144
... Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #146
I agree wholeheartedly. k8conant Jun 2016 #154
Group thug censorship working overtime? These days, IMO, a "hide" is often a badge of honor. zonkers Jun 2016 #162
Bernie's pure campaign and supporters could never raise enough money for upaloopa Jun 2016 #11
exactly niyad Jun 2016 #6
Keep fighting for us Bernie RobertEarl Jun 2016 #7
Well said. Thank you ciaobaby Jun 2016 #22
Bernie does not represent the Left. athena Jun 2016 #28
that is pure unadulterated bull. cali Jun 2016 #30
Thanks for being open and listenining to other people's views. athena Jun 2016 #31
you made a vile, false claim. Did you really think you wouldn't be challenged? cali Jun 2016 #40
It's kind of her stock in trade Amaril Jun 2016 #49
Come on, if you have a view then support it. You didn't give us anything to listen to, just rhetoric JCanete Jun 2016 #43
don't care ...he lost. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #73
The question remains, for you, and for many others, what the fuck you do care about, cept for your JCanete Jun 2016 #85
Fucking bull shit. pangaia Jun 2016 #33
Agreed SirBrockington Jun 2016 #52
Do they not count? n/t PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #64
Just as much as the southern states. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #80
well at least they vote dem in the GE PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #83
Does Utah votes Democratic? 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #87
No PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #116
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #117
Exactly the opposite PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #121
Oh ...I could have sworn you responded ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #142
Idaho & Wyoming & Oklahoma will vote Dem in the GE? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #94
So were Hillary's PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #114
Nonsense. nt redwitch Jun 2016 #62
I agree Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #157
Hear hear! coyote Jun 2016 #34
...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #46
He's not fighting for you. He's enjoying his celebrity and his swanky Secret Service detail eastwestdem Jun 2016 #74
Yes. It's fucking unreal. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #8
Has there ever been a major candidate of either party that refused to concede or acknowledge? SirBrockington Jun 2016 #53
If HRC would have done this in '08, she would not have been able to run again. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #54
Agreed -- and I would have called her out on it obamanut2012 Jun 2016 #84
I knew he wouldn't be able to stop the magic carpet ride CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #9
Bernie needs to come to grips with the fact the majority wants Hillary. DCBob Jun 2016 #10
Well that sucks GummyBearz Jun 2016 #19
Hillary has a vision? tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #58
Actually I think it was her name recognition that won PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #67
Her vision is much like President Obama's with more emphasis on women's and children's issues. DCBob Jun 2016 #68
So what is the vision? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #71
Hillary is a pragmatic policy wonk type. DCBob Jun 2016 #96
But what things? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #113
Unite the Dems and get enough Rs on board to pass legislation that is good for everyone. DCBob Jun 2016 #118
But can you not give me a precis? PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #119
That's precise enough for me... it will have be for you too. DCBob Jun 2016 #120
Sorry. that's just woolly words and means nothing PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #122
Bernie is the one who is full of "woolly words". DCBob Jun 2016 #124
Do your own homework. n/t Lucinda Jun 2016 #145
mind yout own business PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #158
+1. 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #88
her vision is short sighted and she has nothing in common with Obama larkrake Jun 2016 #126
So says you.. DCBob Jun 2016 #129
IF BERNIE *DOESN'T* MAKE DEMANDS SOME OF... Herman4747 Jun 2016 #12
Yeah, losing SCOTUS for at least a generation isn't good enough of a reason for some people n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #32
I don't trust Hillary on Scotus. 840high Jun 2016 #47
Great ... so you'd rather let tRump fuck it up for sure ... brilliant ... #smh SFnomad Jun 2016 #65
go away - I don't trust Hillary 840high Jun 2016 #105
I'll be here .. to remind you how you let tRump screw America up n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #115
The only one helping Trump is Hillary. 840high Jun 2016 #131
If you would vote for BS as the Democratic nominee, but you won't vote for Secretary Clinton ... SFnomad Jun 2016 #134
Please tell him ur welcome - you seem to 840high Jun 2016 #138
If you "always vote for dems", but you'll take a pass on Secretary Clinton, you're helping tRump ... SFnomad Jun 2016 #139
You don't seem to understand. I don't consider 840high Jun 2016 #148
Trump thanks you for your support -- buh bye n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #149
Love how she gets credit for everything Bill did except seat the best justice we have. bettyellen Jun 2016 #66
The Clintons gave us Ginsberg... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #78
They must be the most stupid people that ever lived... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #75
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #13
Clue back to you: What if we take back the Senate and make up ground in the House? DCBob Jun 2016 #18
Probably would have been more likely if we hadn't nominated one of the most distrusted Doctor_J Jun 2016 #111
One more day of this nonsense arcane1 Jun 2016 #15
4 more days workinclasszero Jun 2016 #39
Entitlement KingFlorez Jun 2016 #17
Ironically CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #27
Sanders didn't run in 2008. -none Jun 2016 #41
Who thinks they should win despite losing the popular vote? KingFlorez Jun 2016 #50
He has not lost yet. -none Jun 2016 #60
She has more than enough delegates, she crossed that threshold last week KingFlorez Jun 2016 #81
She does not have the magic number of delegates needed. -none Jun 2016 #91
You don't know what you are talking about KingFlorez Jun 2016 #93
No, Bernie has lost and Hillary has won. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #99
The FBI is sure interested in that server. -none Jun 2016 #102
Thank God the FBI cares 840high Jun 2016 #108
Your indictment fairy nonsense has nothing to do with national security. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #112
I wish for the truth. Obviously you don't. 'nite 840high Jun 2016 #132
Its Only Symbolic jamese777 Jun 2016 #61
"He also was not making plans and setting things in motion to run in 2016 from years before either." Lord Magus Jun 2016 #98
THREAD WINNA!!!! Number23 Jun 2016 #156
One person's truth is another person's delusion Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #20
"arrogance" LOL Amaril Jun 2016 #21
+1 ciaobaby Jun 2016 #23
+2 840high Jun 2016 #48
+3 samson212 Jun 2016 #107
He has overplayed his hand at this point. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #24
Let it go, Freddie. Alex4Martinez Jun 2016 #25
Sanders' demands are things we need. He should never stop demanding them, and neither should we. Orsino Jun 2016 #26
I want those things! I'm not sure everyone on this board does though. nt JCanete Jun 2016 #38
a majority of americans want those things, ignore the rabid few making DU hell to read larkrake Jun 2016 #127
What we need is for Sanders to put his big boy pants on and concede. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #72
No Democrat I know justMYcause Jun 2016 #133
Congratulations! 99Forever Jun 2016 #137
I was a member here 10+ years ago maybe longer... justMYcause Jun 2016 #161
When you have conservatives joining the Democratic party because the republican party has become... Matt_R Jun 2016 #160
Is he hanging on to keep his fans engaged to burn down the convention? procon Jun 2016 #29
Saying he was rejected by democratic voters is in bad taste, and like the media at large, JCanete Jun 2016 #35
Saying he's like "a WWII Japanese soldier hiding in the jungle" is even in WORSE EFFING TASTE. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #70
Why so bitter? GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #36
Many of us expected this. It's sad to witness. grossproffit Jun 2016 #42
Its freakin awesome to watch. Bernie is very inconvenient to the establishment. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #44
It's freaking awesome to watch democracy being rejected? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #100
Trying to blame sanders for Clinton tacking to the right already??? Sivart Jun 2016 #45
However she tacked jamese777 Jun 2016 #63
So in your fantasy world, where we have this free society, and the message isn't managed in any JCanete Jun 2016 #82
Tell your candidate he lost now concede. nt That is the only thing we want to hear. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #79
What "tacking to the right" would that be? Lord Magus Jun 2016 #101
+1 SirBrockington Jun 2016 #51
I don't understamd how you can have been here 10 years PaulaFarrell Jun 2016 #69
I liked their old persona better. arcane1 Jun 2016 #151
It Was A Landslide jamese777 Jun 2016 #59
I would be happy if HRC moved toward the center. guillaumeb Jun 2016 #76
He deserves it, he did an incredible thing. CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #77
She will track toward the RIGHT. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #89
When I saw the title of this OP, I thought it was about HRC. panader0 Jun 2016 #90
She's the winning candidate, not the losing one. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #95
I wonder what the general election winner take all delegate count would be SirBrockington Jun 2016 #150
The states Hillary won in this primary would add up to 399 EVs in the general. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #155
Her supporters will never understand what has happened this last year AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #103
no, dont bother trying. at least we can identify those who are deaf and blind, cant think on larkrake Jun 2016 #125
I think he just forgot his keys in the MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #109
What a surprise. Another nasty Clintonite thread about how they need but don't need progressives. w4rma Jun 2016 #110
she will beat Trump, but will find defeat in congress and world issues. larkrake Jun 2016 #123
They will work it out. Tal Vez Jun 2016 #135
It's more of a leverage lap Zambero Jun 2016 #136
At this point everyone sane on the left would never allow Trump anywhere near Lucinda Jun 2016 #147
When HRC met with Obama in 2008 after the primaries, did you call that a victory lap? NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #152
"Rejected by Democratic voters"? arcane1 Jun 2016 #153
So why don't you just ignore it? You won. Isn't that good enough for you? Vinca Jun 2016 #159
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