2016 Postmortem

Warren Stupidity

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24. Yes by all means don't seize an historic opportunity to move the country away from

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Wed Jun 15, 2016, 07:40 PM

Jun 2016

rightwing economic policies. Hold true to the neoliberal course. Be strong Hillary! What would Thatcher do?

This is why I am yet another sensible centrist for Clinton.

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Chuck Todd of MTP Daily on MSNBC announced a little while ago that the Washington Post [View all] politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 OP

So asking for things 45% of the party voted for is "blackmail" arendt Jun 2016 #1

I doubt if anything she would do would ever be enough to satisfy Bernie SirBrockington Jun 2016 #3

That's not the point. "blackmail" is a very negative word. arendt Jun 2016 #7

What would you call it? nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #34

call it politics. Call it winning. The loosers have to win too floppyboo Jun 2016 #59

About your first post SirBrockington Jun 2016 #35

You have eliminated the context. arendt Jun 2016 #45

The base of the party okasha Jun 2016 #50

That's not the entire base, just the ones you cherry picked to prove your point. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #62

Nope, that's the base. okasha Jun 2016 #66

The base are the activists. arendt Jun 2016 #68

And the activists in the Democratic party okasha Jun 2016 #73

So, you are saying that white, straight non-union men cannot be activists? arendt Jun 2016 #80

No. okasha Jun 2016 #81

Oh, you can say, women/POC/LGBT, but IdPol is a "dogwhistle". LOL n.t arendt Jun 2016 #83

+10 appalachiablue Jun 2016 #103

the democratic base DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #90

I think you misdirected this okasha Jun 2016 #91

sorry my response was to post 62? I think. DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #92

No prob. okasha Jun 2016 #93

If we want to continue to have a base Kentonio Jun 2016 #95

From the words of a now-gone "Pillar of DU" ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #77

Nothing like an 11 year old quote for relevance. arendt Jun 2016 #82

No, things haven't changed, at all ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #106

Of course there is no loud..etc segment of Identity Politicians claiming ownership. arendt Jun 2016 #107

If this ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #109

Moving away and giving nothing is an insult. arendt Jun 2016 #55

That would mean then that these are things 55% did not ask for by my count. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #4

Politics is not supposed to be warfare. Inside a party, there is supposed to be compromise. arendt Jun 2016 #8

Gee for a moment I was starting to feel a little bad thinking perhaps you hadn't been around here politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #22

Winner take all. No compromise. Yada Yada. So sick of this hard line BS. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #46

When has Bernie been willing to compromise on anything? CrowCityDem Jun 2016 #56

**** FANTASTIC POST ****^^^^^ It's his way or nothing. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #99

If Bernie only got 10% of the vote, I would concede... tex-wyo-dem Jun 2016 #11

Good info about UT, thanks. I've read about Hortensis Jun 2016 #110

Many of those who voted are not a part of the party KingFlorez Jun 2016 #5

I see. People who vote in Democratic Primaries are NOT members of the party. arendt Jun 2016 #9

Reading is fundamental KingFlorez Jun 2016 #12

AGain, not the point. Give me a definition or its pure speculation. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #19

You aren't comprehending, dear KingFlorez Jun 2016 #25

I see. "by definition" is your answer. arendt Jun 2016 #31

You asked for an answer and you got it KingFlorez Jun 2016 #49

Its not an answer; its a tautology. arendt Jun 2016 #57

They define themselves when they say they would vote Trump if Bernie wasn't a GE candidate. n/t Lucinda Jun 2016 #76

Did they vote? Not yet. So we don't know. arendt Jun 2016 #86

That is, vote in the GE for Trump. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #87

That was mistated by the media and is incorrect. When West Virginians who appalachiablue Jun 2016 #85

Thanks for explaining exactly how that poll result was spun. n't arendt Jun 2016 #88

For sure. appalachiablue Jun 2016 #89

42% Renew Deal Jun 2016 #6

This is that bogus survey number again. arendt Jun 2016 #10

Bullshit Doctor_J Jun 2016 #16

Then if this is his litmus test, he should have run as an Independent. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #30

Why? There are Democrats who support those items. Just not Hillary. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #63

Hillary supports a good many of those points, okasha Jun 2016 #94

I have read her platform, thank you very much. JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #98

Which ones? And how? Ash_F Jun 2016 #102

They hate liberals as much as republicans do Doctor_J Jun 2016 #13

I can't follow this. Who is "they"? n/t arendt Jun 2016 #15

Hillary's cult Doctor_J Jun 2016 #17

Oh. OK. We are on the same page. n't arendt Jun 2016 #20

Because HRC is a neoliberal war-lover, not a liberal. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #18

Not everyone who voted for Sanders is a party member or even on the political Left. KittyWampus Jun 2016 #28

So what? And what does that have to do with "blackmail"? n'/t arendt Jun 2016 #32

Asking for actual progressive principles is blackmail, it seems. arcane1 Jun 2016 #53

Well, actually, YES. n't arendt Jun 2016 #58

Blackmail, coersion and buying support is the HRC campaign's method of operation notadmblnd Jun 2016 #70

I hadn't thought of the projection angle on the use of "blackmailer". n/t arendt Jun 2016 #71

I would not say 'the party'--instead they are the primary voters riversedge Jun 2016 #79

I think Romney's utter disgust with Trump probably cost him a ton sufrommich Jun 2016 #2

Yeah, they're playing follow their leader. nt TeamPooka Jun 2016 #97

Blackmail? Bernie? Duval Jun 2016 #14

A couple Mormon women I know are all in for Hill. okasha Jun 2016 #21

Let me get this straight... arendt Jun 2016 #27

Please do get this straight. okasha Jun 2016 #36

This is "apochryphal". arendt Jun 2016 #48

Uh, yeah, it is fact. okasha Jun 2016 #54

Missing the point. arendt Jun 2016 #60

I made no general statement about Mormon women. okasha Jun 2016 #65

Then it really was anecdotal (sorry I said apochryphal). arendt Jun 2016 #67

Sure, okasha Jun 2016 #72

And you will decide which trends are "real". n/t arendt Jun 2016 #84

Those Republicans she mentioned aren't trying to tear her down at the present moment. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #37

Bernie's peeps are legitimately asking what they get for 45% of the vote. arendt Jun 2016 #51

Nothing. It does not work that way. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #101

Wow. What an gobsmacking dictatorial attitude. arendt Jun 2016 #108

This is not horsehoes Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #112

Former South Dakota Senator, Larry Pressler. He was the one oasis Jun 2016 #23

Thanks, I was trying to remember his name. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #39

Yes by all means don't seize an historic opportunity to move the country away from Warren Stupidity Jun 2016 #24

What does Utah have to do with Bernie and... Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #26

Thanks for the sanity. Don't expect to be heard. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #29

It's just further proof WolverineDG Jun 2016 #38

They can try without me. Fuddnik Jun 2016 #61

Because she can rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #104

FTR, there is more than one definition of blackmail politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #64

What utter pettifoggery.Making up example definitions. n/t arendt Jun 2016 #69

OK, even using your definition Peachhead22 Jun 2016 #75

Blackmail? The blackmailer WON Utah by 59% They chose Him not HER. jillan Jun 2016 #33

All 79 democrats in Utah voted for Bernie? Eom lol rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #105

don't be progressive? Be your true, republican light self? Get that shit outa here. Schema Thing Jun 2016 #40

There is nothing "lite" about HRC or her followers. Doctor_J Jun 2016 #42

Would have been a good year to nominate someone who wants to fix the problems instead Doctor_J Jun 2016 #41

What a load of crap. Secretary Clinton is NOT an "entrenched conservative" ... and if BS wanted to SFnomad Jun 2016 #47

What?? Would you call Obama's SOS deal with Hillary that? Sheesh! senz Jun 2016 #43

"forget the Dems Hillary you've got the Reps!" CanadaexPat Jun 2016 #44

Hillary should move even more to the right? .99center Jun 2016 #52

Asking the Dem party to get back to representing PEOPLE rather than MONEY Triana Jun 2016 #74

and the bitterness continues. GeorgeGist Jun 2016 #78

Holy mother of AWESOME. This is getting better every day! Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #96

I imagine Mormons don't take kindly to Trump's multiple marriages auntpurl Jun 2016 #100

When did the Establisment begin emitting the "blackmail" talking point? Orsino Jun 2016 #111