2016 Postmortem

AntiBank

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58. your idea of moving on is simply further to the right

Thu Jun 16, 2016, 02:50 AM

Jun 2016

There is nothing time-regressive about univeral health care, anti war foreign policy, opposing horrific trade deals, tution free education, actually breaking up big banks. Things from the past that ARE needed are the return of Glass Steagall and the re-outlawing of most derivatives. Bill Clinton's administration is the one who demolished those last two and laid the groundwork from the 2008 financial crisis.

Hillary Clinton supports none of the above and the Clintonian, neoliberal, ever-rightward side of the party and this board want to eradicate all hope of them coming to fruition as well as crush most all progressive,leftish tendancies, people, and power inside the Democratic Party.

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Why is there still vitriol here? [View all] Zynx Jun 2016 OP

I still feel some vitriol when I read articles like this one here Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #1

Exit polling discrepancies? Actual votes count, not flawed exit polls. Metric System Jun 2016 #2

Especially self-selected exit poll data from a handful of counties out of 58. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #4

I'm glad you're cool with it Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #5

Cool with what? There's no proof of election fraud. Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #45

Come on, guys. I'm all for cooling it, but how about not denying the obvious? For example: Cal33 Jun 2016 #117

That has also been debunked Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #118

How about Debbie W. Schultz's rigging of the Democratic Primary Debates to 6 initially, and placing Cal33 Jun 2016 #121

Well seeing as that DIDN'T happen, you need to drop the false claims. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #122

Tubes. It's easy to find exactly what one 'wants' to find on the Al Gore internets. eom fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #22

I'm glad you're cool with it too Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #28

In case you get stuck... fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #80

Aww! Aren't you the sweetest Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #95

I'm sorry, but that's a load of shit. That's an article with a preordained answer. Zynx Jun 2016 #59

I think it needs to be said that the Trust Vote lawsuit indicates that Hillary is not the accused floriduck Jun 2016 #83

I still feel some vitriol when people POST articles like that one. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #123

What about in 2004 with the exit polls in Ohio? Were they conspiracy theories then too? Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #124

What ABOUT in 2004 with the exit polls in Ohio? Nobody invented FAKE exit poll discrepancies then. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #126

No it's not Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #129

Sanders isn't getting out. He's made that crystal clear. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #3

You just made the OP's point. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #6

Until he says "she won because she got more votes" geek tragedy Jun 2016 #8

And you're still arguing. She won. Don't be a sore winner. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #9

She won LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #11

She won. Why do you care whether he says it or not? The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #13

Perhaps because he is whipping his supporters LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #16

What frenzy? I'm not frenzied. I don't know anybody who's frenzied. The Velveteen Ocelot Jun 2016 #21

+1 pat_k Jun 2016 #54

+2 Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #78

+3 George Eliot Jun 2016 #97

+4 JackInGreen Jun 2016 #102

You're the ones in a frenzy, not me. pangaia Jun 2016 #53

They do not understand what Bernie's fight is really about. pangaia Jun 2016 #52

He can fight on but must leave the primary to do so. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #68

Emotional supporters can't let go of the emotion. George Eliot Jun 2016 #98

He's thinking and doing no such thing. We know him better than you know your own. ancianita Jun 2016 #46

What difference does it make if DWS serves out her term? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #66

Her removal is symbolic of Hill's change in policy goals, if any of that is important beyond the ancianita Jun 2016 #85

She sucks and she won't have that job in 2017 geek tragedy Jun 2016 #89

Symbol as in optics. I said it will reflect a real change in leadership and governance goals. ancianita Jun 2016 #90

No, Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #108

"If Sanders demands it then no"?How Republican of you. HRC'ers know damned good & well WE ALL ancianita Jun 2016 #120

Did you just admit you think she rigged things for HRC...? Marr Jun 2016 #125

I think people have bigger goals than stopping Trump TheFarseer Jun 2016 #7

What could be a bigger goal than stopping a man who wants to stop Muslims from coming to ... DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #10

It's lucky that HRC is going to be running against such a complete idiot. panader0 Jun 2016 #14

Boom- That's where the vitriol keeps coming from redstateblues Jun 2016 #30

White privilege? CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #15

I think not having a crazy person as president is kind of a minimum TheFarseer Jun 2016 #20

You can have short term goals... jamese777 Jun 2016 #23

More like four Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #25

Bernie planning on losing again in 4 years? Heard it here first. redstateblues Jun 2016 #31

No, Eight to Twenty Years Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #32

So true. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #34

"Sitting on your backside this election is the action of a clueless, immature, spoiled brat" Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #36

So you live in a blue state? Nice for you Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #41

If democrats ran strong progressive candidates they would never lose Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #43

What makes you all think Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #70

Probably happy thoughts and pixie-dust Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #81

The country is not far left..and we would need a bushel of pixie dust. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #114

We ran George McGovern and he lost WhiteTara Jun 2016 #127

That was 44 years ago and circumstances were different Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #128

That "never" sort of got to me. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #131

Maybe I was hyperbolic. But I feel like... Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #132

This is our moment. What office WhiteTara Jun 2016 #133

Ha! I'm more of an advisor Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #135

Ah WhiteTara Jun 2016 #140

That's pretty rude Ned_Devine Jun 2016 #141

Sorry. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #142

There can be no more important goal then stopping Trump... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #27

Oh, for chrissake. Even you fake unifiers know Trump is handily beating himself without any of us. ancianita Jun 2016 #47

You can't count on that. The GOP voters will come home in the end Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #71

+1 in a nutshell GreatGazoo Jun 2016 #74

Because the software wasn't ready, or something like that CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #12

LOL Grassy Knoll Jun 2016 #18

There will always be vitriol here, and I am cool with it. bigwillq Jun 2016 #17

As long as the "struggle continues," as Sanders put it last week, ucrdem Jun 2016 #19

"misunderstanding emanating from his campaign" pat_k Jun 2016 #55

Some people just seem to want to provoke Democrats into fighting with each other. Fozzledick Jun 2016 #24

Best answer so far, imho, nt stopwastingmymoney Jun 2016 #50

THOMAS FRANK ON HOW DEMOCRATS WENT FROM BEING THE ‘PARTY OF THE PEOPLE’ TO THE PARTY OF RICH ELITES elleng Jun 2016 #26

The new deal Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #33

Nothing romantic about it, elleng Jun 2016 #35

You don't go back in time... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #37

I was around during LBJ's tenure, recognize the Civil Rights Act etc, elleng Jun 2016 #38

Living in the past is not a good thing Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #40

YOU move on, elleng Jun 2016 #42

Living in the past is not change. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #67

your idea of moving on is simply further to the right AntiBank Jun 2016 #58

I am a liberal Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #73

Thanks and Welcome, AntiBank. elleng Jun 2016 #94

not to mention that by romanticizing FDR as the god progressive DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #44

Such a bs argument against the greatest leader the US has ever known. RiverLover Jun 2016 #60

I think Pres. Roosevelt saved this country Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #82

Roosevelt did intern Japanese Americans and steal their money too. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #110

I am not denying FDR did good especially with the new deal DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #134

what is b.s about it DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #144

And who exempted POC from most new deal relief programs nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #75

What? You call wanting to join the 21st Century of modern nations "living in the past"? Ridiculous. ancianita Jun 2016 #48

I think copying any country is a waste of time Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #76

+1 /nt RiverLover Jun 2016 #61

Because Bernie Sanders has not conceded ...that's why and until he does there will Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #29

Because...for the 100th time... workinclasszero Jun 2016 #39

+1000 DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #49

Because there are factions on DU that have no purpose or goal other than reflexive rage and hatred Scootaloo Jun 2016 #51

Because it's all some have to offer melman Jun 2016 #56

because some people are just assholes. Warren DeMontague Jun 2016 #57

Disqualify Him, Defeat Him, Unify Party Later Deny and Shred Jun 2016 #62

He never was attacking Hillary, number one... MrMickeysMom Jun 2016 #63

He never attacked Hillary, huh? "She's not qualified to be president" wasn't an attack? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #69

NOPE workinclasszero Jun 2016 #87

I'm beginning to wonder if some Hillary "supporters" might be on the Trump payroll. Vinca Jun 2016 #64

No point asking that question. VulgarPoet Jun 2016 #65

Sore loser Hillary supporters whistler162 Jun 2016 #72

Perhaps sore winner would be more appropriate...although I disagree with that also. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #77

It's more like sore loser Bernie supporters. They are responsible for the vitriol. LonePirate Jun 2016 #79

They are indeed... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #106

100% of it? Come on, I know you don't believe that. Miles Archer Jun 2016 #116

that is bullshit DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #143

In 2008 DLCWIdem Jun 2016 #145

Because assholes? bvf Jun 2016 #84

you don't have the right people on ignore rurallib Jun 2016 #86

Because it's an idiological discrepency between progressives and those that want to redifine NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #88

Don't worry, Hillary fans. This website LibDemAlways Jun 2016 #91

The exodus from here is going to be epic. When all is said and done, there will be about 50... ChisolmTrailDem Jun 2016 #93

Some who were driven out by unfair practices Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #111

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #96

So, you're going to an echo chamber because DU is going to be too echo-chambery for you? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #105

I was thinking the very same thing. It's very amusing if you think about it. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #119

The party is unified? vintx Jun 2016 #92

Also dumb shit like this vintx Jun 2016 #99

Also shit like this: vintx Jun 2016 #100

You're seriously objecting to a post with nothing but the delegate totals in it? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #107

Typical. vintx Jun 2016 #109

The post is a ridiculous assertion that Sanders is going to win CA based on nothing of substance. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #113

Isn't vitriol a brand of cough medicine? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #101

I can make a guess rock Jun 2016 #103

Most of us vote for faces rather than on issues. Orsino Jun 2016 #104

Well if there was nobody to complain about, many posters would never have anything to say. Rex Jun 2016 #112

Aaaaand dumb shit like this vintx Jun 2016 #115

If you can't tell when posters are obvious trolls... TwilightZone Jun 2016 #137

And shit like this vintx Jun 2016 #130

The whole website? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #138

Obviously I copied the link wrong vintx Jun 2016 #139

The indictment fairy still lives..nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #136