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Hortensis

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23. McCain losing with Palin does not explain
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

Last edited Fri Jun 17, 2016, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)

why gender balance is critical to the Democrats in this election. Do we feel men are underrepresented in politics so that some balancing is needed?

I agree racial and/or ethic reaching out would always be important to Democrats, and that absolutely includes this election; however, our party already has broadly diverse support. Our biggest problem right now that I can see is what numbers the various Hispanic groups come out to vote in, so it's likely a Hispanic candidate would pay a good return.

BUT, how about ideological spread, or "balance"? We need all those who were excited by Bernie to get out and vote. We also need centrist and moderate conservatives to vote Democrat. Which of those men you listed would appeal to both groups as strongly as Elizabeth Warren, a strong economically conservative/socially liberal progressive with an inspiring and well known record of successful fighting for reform?

I believe that what America really needs right now is a reawakening of centrist and conservative progressivism, the belief their parents had in using government to advance society and tackle problems too large to fix any other way. Democrats are a majority and we still don't have the numbers to do it alone. It requires majorities in government. It requires broadening our ideological appeal.


Why do we need gender balance on the ticket? leftofcool Jun 2016 #1
I hear you, but political reality is political reality. Also, no regional balance. We'll win MA. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #2
That should piss off the "240" feminists. Nice job. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #10
No one is out to piss off anyone. This is reality. And regardless of the gender factor, there are RBInMaine Jun 2016 #15
Try telling that to them - TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #42
Why are you so sure "gender" and "regional" balance Hortensis Jun 2016 #19
You're comparing apples to oranges. Here is why: RBInMaine Jun 2016 #22
McCain losing with Palin does not explain Hortensis Jun 2016 #23
Mixed gender tickets never win here. immoderate Jun 2016 #29
Interesting thought. They "don't." :) Hortensis Jun 2016 #35
Men are not going to vote for Hillary because there's a guy in John Poet Jun 2016 #26
I agree with this. Adrahil Jun 2016 #32
Don't be convinced we can hold Warren's seat LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #28
Almost agree... Mike Nelson Jun 2016 #3
One point to consider is who Clinton feels she can work with. ucrdem Jun 2016 #4
Kaine is a dreary choice, and I wouldn't worry about the map this time BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #5
Always have to be concerned about the map. Warren excites the left wing but doesn't bring much else. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #13
Kaine is very smart, very qualified, from VA, and has strong ties to the Hispanic community. But, RBInMaine Jun 2016 #21
He's a safe choice BeyondGeography Jun 2016 #24
He's also the most conservative choice on her list. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #34
Won't be Sherrod Brown; we won't risk the Senate. brooklynite Jun 2016 #6
Understand the analysis, but not sure conventional wisdom matters this year. Hoyt Jun 2016 #7
Is there a union leader our there with background and business experience? glennward Jun 2016 #8
Perez. Kaine and the others would guarantee a +1 R Senate pickup in 2017. eom LLStarks Jun 2016 #9
Maybe. But he's had some controversy. I'd sooner go with Beccara. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #18
Becerra is my choice but being from CA diminishes his chances. LonePirate Jun 2016 #31
Kaine has a Dem governor that would appoint his replacement. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #36
Kaine and Ryan are terrible on abortion nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11
You can't get perfection. Think big picture. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #12
Ummm, women's civil rights is definitely part of the big picture nt geek tragedy Jun 2016 #14
And Hillary already brings plenty of that. We need a more balanced ticket. There are other voters. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #16
I'd go with Sherrod Brown if not for the fact that Kasich gets to replace him. YouDig Jun 2016 #17
Yeah, Brown's a good choice but for that Senate vacancy problem. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #20
Sherrod Brown would be replaced by a repuke. cali Jun 2016 #25
I honestly have never had a VP choice sway my vote. SheilaT Jun 2016 #27
Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #30
New Jersey would have a special election... not a permanent appointment. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #33
Booker really turned me off with his defense of Bain Capital in 12. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #38
It will be difficult for Hillary to please everyone. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #40
Brown is my choice. While I like others better, he is the best choice politically. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #37
Delaware was a solid-blue Dem lock, but Biden still worked out very well for President Obama. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #39
as much as I love Sherrod and Elizabeth DonCoquixote Jun 2016 #41
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