2016 Postmortem

anigbrowl

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46. The 'PUMA movement' was tiny

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 03:36 PM

Jun 2016

I read Hillaryis44.com for months for a mix of oppo research and amusement. there were only about 50 regular posters, if that. I'm pretty sure that half of them were right-wingers because I've seen a lot of 2008 attacks against Obama levelled against Hillary Clinton this cycle. Obama was a corpocrat, Republican-lite, corrupt machine politician and so on and on. Nowadays they pay lip service to being hillary supporters but it's pretty obvious that a lot of them are rooting for Trump. I expect to see the exact same dynamic with this cycles radicals and their private purity club - 4-8 years from now they'll bbe discussing whether support for the GOP candidate (or whatever the GOP turns into between now and then) might be the right way to displace the people they truly despise...in the Democratic party.

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Bernie is trying to break a bad cycle.....That's why he has not jumped in with an endorsement [View all] Armstead Jun 2016 OP

And that's exactly what LWolf Jun 2016 #1

Where's the tick-tock guy? seabeckind Jun 2016 #3

He couldn't count past "1" John Poet Jun 2016 #5

Sorry...out getting lunch brooklynite Jun 2016 #36

absolutely nt G_j Jun 2016 #7

Yep. Exactly this. n/t Triana Jun 2016 #13

A somewhat related subject. seabeckind Jun 2016 #2

Yup. Issues be damned. n/t djean111 Jun 2016 #4

Hillary herself conceded and endorsed Obama 4 days after he clinched the nom. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #27

Try reading it again. seabeckind Jun 2016 #45

The 'PUMA movement' was tiny anigbrowl Jun 2016 #46

I remember some on this site. seabeckind Jun 2016 #54

Yes, but most of them got tombstoned by about April 08 anigbrowl Jun 2016 #56

It's so presumptuous of him, after getting beaten so badly, to think that he is where the YouDig Jun 2016 #6

You obvious failed to comprehend -- or chose not to -- the point of the OP.... Armstead Jun 2016 #9

Losing by 10-15 points is losing badly. This wasn't a close election. YouDig Jun 2016 #14

So it is supposed to be "winner take all and fuck the losers" even though.... Armstead Jun 2016 #24

There's no points for surpassing expectations. That's not a thing. Votes are the thing. YouDig Jun 2016 #38

crickets for an answer. WhiteTara Jun 2016 #55

Yes there is. bvar22 Jun 2016 #57

Perfect! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #58

Well that is the nature of the Democratic process anigbrowl Jun 2016 #47

In a 2-person race, yes getting 43% of the vote really is losing badly. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #31

You don't understand that losing by double digits .... IS... losing badly uponit7771 Jun 2016 #40

It's a solid loss. Not a landslide or a squeaker -- but a solid, undeniable loss. pnwmom Jun 2016 #60

A-friggin'-men! The hubris and self-righteousness are astounding. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #11

It is clear that more Americans support Bernie rather than Hillary..... virtualobserver Jun 2016 #12

Uhh, Bernie just lost. A big election. The voters chose HIllary. We don't need to speculate, we YouDig Jun 2016 #15

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills with some of the posts I've seen on here. Ace Rothstein Jun 2016 #20

If more supported Bernie, he'd be the nominee splat Jun 2016 #16

he would be the nominee if independents were allowed to vote in the primary virtualobserver Jun 2016 #19

Half of Independents are GOP-ers. So now you welcome them into the fold, huh? randome Jun 2016 #23

That's the meme anyway, there's no evidence to suggest it's the reality. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #29

Ooops, posted in wrong place, sorry. intheozone Jun 2016 #32

Independents can join the Democratic party whenever they want anigbrowl Jun 2016 #49

In my state, we have open primaries, and we always have. virtualobserver Jun 2016 #59

There's no hoop to jump through anigbrowl Jun 2016 #62

it is different in every state....with different timetables an different requirements virtualobserver Jun 2016 #66

The GOP has been more than competative. They have driven the agenda for 35 years Armstead Jun 2016 #21

This is an irrational position uponit7771 Jun 2016 #42

His lower vote totals prove he is more popular, you just need to use numerology to see why! .nt anigbrowl Jun 2016 #48

Presumptuous? He is fighting for change. He will fight with Hill in the coming months. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #35

Because he was supposed to be the pat-on-the-head Kucinich candidate, left-wing UFO loon type, yodermon Jun 2016 #37

+1, this is what entitled people do uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41

He failed LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #8

He didn't fail. He got a huge amount of support for his message and ideas. Armstead Jun 2016 #10

His ideas are fine, he's not the candidate most people wanted splat Jun 2016 #17

"His ideas are fine".....Then why so much demonization of them by demonizing him? Armstead Jun 2016 #18

No one's demonizing his ideas. randome Jun 2016 #25

Ideals are good character is poor on its face... period end of story uponit7771 Jun 2016 #43

Do you take Miss World seriously? anigbrowl Jun 2016 #52

failing = losing Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #33

Yes he did, and your inability to acknowledge that is why he failed anigbrowl Jun 2016 #51

LOL tk2kewl Jun 2016 #22

People are moving on TrueDemVA Jun 2016 #34

... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #26

Yes, sister! k8conant Jun 2016 #28

Kind of long defense of what I consider the indefensable. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #30

Going with the flow would be easy. Orsino Jun 2016 #39

Sanders' campaign was entirely a response to Obama: he promised everything, he could've DONE all of MisterP Jun 2016 #44

At first, I thought you meant "news cycle" Wednesdays Jun 2016 #50

Well said, Armstead ! kentuck Jun 2016 #53

I understand and respect your viewpoint. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #61

This isn't about Bernie, it's about the movement, it's about us. 2banon Jun 2016 #65

I agree. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #68

The immediate results of Bernie's Call to Action should give you hope 2banon Jun 2016 #69

Frankly, part of that is our media and political culrture Armstead Jun 2016 #67

All he is breaking LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #63

How was your Jr. High graduation ceremony last week? Armstead Jun 2016 #70

I wasn't wrong LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #71

A groups of dissidents are dong that one... Armstead Jun 2016 #72

I want him to do this. TeacherB87 Jun 2016 #64