2016 Postmortem

Uncle Joe

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107. I agree on all counts.

Reply to AtomicKitten (Reply #68)

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 06:04 PM

Jun 2016

Peace to you, AtomicKitten.

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Clinton supporters' newest delusion about Bernie Sanders [View all] Uncle Joe Jun 2016 OP

Thanks for sharing this, Uncle Joe. floriduck Jun 2016 #1

It was my pleasure, floriduck. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #2

Yup big thanks. big kick. to the convention. zonkers Jun 2016 #57

This message was self-deleted by its author rock Jun 2016 #101

Damn right. Little by little, ever since the DLC got started, those of us on the left vintx Jun 2016 #3

Yea that's why you refused to vote in 2014 and now in 2016. You are a critical mass at Bernie upaloopa Jun 2016 #5

I've voted straight ticket Dem since I turned 18 and could vote (for Dukakis) vintx Jun 2016 #9

One person doesn't make a movement. upaloopa Jun 2016 #12

I joined here in 2013. Was mourning on smirking chimp before that. vintx Jun 2016 #15

Then don't you think down ticket is where to start? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #21

It seems almost hopeless to get through to some people Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #65

You sound like a right winger. JRLeft Jun 2016 #20

Always has. n/t QC Jun 2016 #77

I know we have right leaning voters on this site. JRLeft Jun 2016 #78

Unless she is a female, then it is breaking glass ceilings, and earth shattering. No matter what she insta8er Jun 2016 #29

The absentees have been shown to have been your dear 'moderates' over and over. Marr Jun 2016 #37

That's a bunch of anti-Left hate bologna. From my experience in 2014 the Left was out rhett o rick Jun 2016 #99

upaloopa�Neoliberal Democrats are responsible. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #80

"Key board warriors get nowhere." notadmblnd Jun 2016 #92

They said the same about Howard Dean. Pardon us if we use the Left's previous inability to show up BobbyDrake Jun 2016 #4

Howard Dean won how many primaries and caucuses? Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #8

BobbyDrake�Translating your message: �I want my Democratic Party to be a Moderate Republican Party�! CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #81

real advances mean actual legislative progress bigtree Jun 2016 #6

Are you seriously unaware of Sanders' record of building coalitions? vintx Jun 2016 #10

Sanders's record of building coalitions? geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13

Oh tell me how he's the amendment king too. anigbrowl Jun 2016 #25

But but but He wants a coalition government Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #63

LOL you're naughty anigbrowl Jun 2016 #64

actual legislative progress can only be had if you have a legislature that wants progress, JCanete Jun 2016 #43

so you set yourself up as a victim bigtree Jun 2016 #46

Inventing? I know why the left has a hard time garnering support. It's not some mystery, and it has JCanete Jun 2016 #49

you know next to nothing about what Hillary supporters believe bigtree Jun 2016 #85

Not surprising. My point was that you wouldn't tell us what you believe, so I was working off of JCanete Jun 2016 #87

K N R-ed Faux pas Jun 2016 #7

People can argue all they want, the real impact of the Sanders 'revolution' is yet to be seen. eastwestdem Jun 2016 #11

I believe Bernie's strong advocacy for selected, younger progressive political leaders at all Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #17

Again, we shall see. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #19

i guess we'll see over the next few cycles if thats true ShrimpPoboy Jun 2016 #14

Thank you, when I read that ridiculous article, it reeked of Party Elitists propaganda 2banon Jun 2016 #16

Thank you, 2banon. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #18

And to you my friend.. 2banon Jun 2016 #72

You're not used to true progressivism, democrats have fed you neoliberal policies dressed up as JRLeft Jun 2016 #22

talking to me? 2banon Jun 2016 #74

replacing her with a union rep WhiteTara Jun 2016 #23

She's still chair of the DNC. She's not the one who runs day to day operations and never has been. hedda_foil Jun 2016 #28

I know that's what the headlines implied, but as usual headlines mislead 2banon Jun 2016 #73

She'll be gone in January. Why not show a little WhiteTara Jun 2016 #82

When it's deserved I generally do 2banon Jun 2016 #86

K&R! Great article Uncle Joe. Thanks for this. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #24

I hope (we all hope) the resurgent left votes in every election. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #26

The "most left wing" had the least diverse coalition of voters and ignored the "southern states".... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #27

The South is the most conservative region of the nation, most resistant to change and the Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #30

Weaver and Divine admitted not competing in the "southern states" & Sanders lost by over 2 mil votes uponit7771 Jun 2016 #31

He might have lost by more if he had ;) OnDoutside Jun 2016 #32

lol... that's something to think about... if people heard his message the rejection would've been... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #34

But but, the system was RIIIIIGGGGED !!! OnDoutside Jun 2016 #40

It most certainly is rigged but I don't find that to be amusing. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #45

I find the notion that the long shot black guy who won in 08 doesn't think the system is rigged but uponit7771 Jun 2016 #56

Correct, and he didn't even compete in the South, but that doesn't count of course. OnDoutside Jun 2016 #67

As I said, Bernie didn't have the time, resources nor name recognition to counter the Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #33

.. and as I said that's bullshit false on its face, he had enough in whiter redder states and didn't uponit7771 Jun 2016 #35

No region of the nation is more conservative than the South this holds true among all demographics, Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #42

Again, the redder WHITER states are even more conservative and he spent resources there uponit7771 Jun 2016 #54

in August of '15 Hillary surrogates were already calling Southern Blacks her firewall against Bernie azurnoir Jun 2016 #62

Irrelevant and indicates condescension seeing blacks could care less what the Clinton campaign uponit7771 Jun 2016 #102

And black folks forgave Hillary noiretextatique Jun 2016 #94

Since Obama did ... yes, that's easy... also she stuck around and not just in the senate or SoS... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #103

"National corporate media conglomerate propaganda war against him". tonyt53 Jun 2016 #36

Bernie never underestimated their role in this primary nor throughout his life, but the Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #44

Bernie was given a pass by the media. His past would have been the end of him long ago. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #51

"A pass by the media"? the corporate media conglomerates all but blacked out coverage of Bernie Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #106

I disagree, he understimated the roll PoC issues from the START of the campaign and homogenized them uponit7771 Jun 2016 #55

No he didn't as evidenced by the LIBERAL POC noiretextatique Jun 2016 #95

which account for ONLY 20 - 30% of his vote... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #104

Hillary is going to ignore the southern states from here on out. lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #52

Really? Florencenj2point0 Jun 2016 #66

it would be stupid to campaign in Texas, Oklahoma, Mississippi, etc. She's not stupid. n/t lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #71

If she is far enough ahead that she can afford to spend some time in some red states. totodeinhere Jun 2016 #91

Yep. She needed them for the primary seabeckind Jun 2016 #69

+1, the experienced people understand the difference between GE and Primary while the sore losers uponit7771 Jun 2016 #89

Hopefully, GE != primary... that's what experience will get us... someone who campaigns smart uponit7771 Jun 2016 #88

+1 harun Jun 2016 #98

uponit7771�Clintons have wooed and suckered bloc-voting black Democrats� CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #83

Polling showed in "southern states" millienial voters were for HRC along same lines as parents... uponit7771 Jun 2016 #90

South is a waste of time and money. Bernie did it right. harun Jun 2016 #97

How about this delusion about Bernie Sanders... wyldwolf Jun 2016 #38

Terrific, and spot on Ferd Berfel Jun 2016 #39

Another "We are strong and intelligent!" article. randome Jun 2016 #41

We are the most righteous leftists since Eddy and Jules . . . ucrdem Jun 2016 #60

What a feat convincing oneself felix_numinous Jun 2016 #47

It's a regular Alice in Wonderland. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #48

If Sanders support was about Clinton hate, then why not O'Malley? lumberjack_jeff Jun 2016 #50

"Write him off" is not a rational response. SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #53

it is still a two way street - hopemountain Jun 2016 #58

No, not new. This has been Sanders' achilles heel since the day he launched in Vermont: ucrdem Jun 2016 #59

Bernie who? The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #61

The Clinton supporters were really nasty toward then Candidate Obama back in 2008. AtomicKitten Jun 2016 #68

Beautifully stated! nt vintx Jun 2016 #70

AtomicKitten�If anything, they encourage me to vote elsewhere. CobaltBlue Jun 2016 #84

And her campaign was nasty too noiretextatique Jun 2016 #96

Agreed farleftlib Jun 2016 #100

No they weren't, apart from a tiny minority of hyperaggressive posters anigbrowl Jun 2016 #105

I agree on all counts. Uncle Joe Jun 2016 #107

The largest voting group by far are registered Independents' NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #75

You said another Thing coming? Here I am. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #76

Sanders has had a terrible week. lapucelle Jun 2016 #79

"The Thing" coming our way... mia Jun 2016 #93