2016 Postmortem

SheilaT

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123. You'll be pleased at this.

Fri Jun 17, 2016, 07:01 PM

Jun 2016

The results of jury:

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: I vote to leave this. The thread is accurate the hatred spewed has escalated ever since the posters return from a well deserved time-out it is very noticeable.
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Hate? Pot, meet Kettle.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
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Juror #5 voted to HIDE IT
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Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The alert on this post is yet another example of the Hillary supporters unable to tolerate any criticism of her, or any praise of Bernie. As a response to the original post it is quite appropriate.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Is it a "blatant personal attack on a DUer.", or a careful observation of a posters motivation. I'll give you a hint...... Leave it alone.

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Bernie Sanders Flips off Black Voters (figuratively) on his Way out the Door [View all] bravenak Jun 2016 OP

I'd put that 'Note to Jury' at the top ... just so it wasn't missed n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1

I'll post it at the top too bravenak Jun 2016 #4

thanks for posting. Bernie has no special love for minorities MariaThinks Jun 2016 #58

Very apparent bravenak Jun 2016 #61

Yes, his civil rights actions in the 60s were merely publicity stunts... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #252

It was TOO LONG AGO to be relevant enough for us to feel a connection to him bravenak Jun 2016 #261

More rules at whim. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #272

We liked him just fine bravenak Jun 2016 #273

Good point about over-zealous supporters. But still I don't think that justifies the premise that... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #276

The concern for us is dwarfed by his concern about billionaires. bravenak Jun 2016 #277

re: "His top three staffers were white guys" thesquanderer Jun 2016 #279

He started the campaign nearly a year before that date of jan 30 bravenak Jun 2016 #281

re: "he was not competing in the south" - He tried hard in SC. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #282

I think it was less about money and more about how we operate bravenak Jun 2016 #283

Is it Monday yet? Maybe I'll sleep the weekend away. floriduck Jun 2016 #62

Always a good idea Hekate Jun 2016 #214

But the truth hurts some people's feelings little too easily. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

It sure does bravenak Jun 2016 #6

Unlike sore winners.... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #202

I thought it was not over until the convention? bravenak Jun 2016 #204

Actually no...you know it is over - stop pouting Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #209

lol bravenak Jun 2016 #210

who? zappaman Jun 2016 #3

There was this guy once who wanted to be coronated bravenak Jun 2016 #5

Well he wrote PoC off when he dismissed the whole south workinclasszero Jun 2016 #7

He never really says anything different bravenak Jun 2016 #8

I didn't listen to the speech WhiteTara Jun 2016 #9

Mentioned us in passing bravenak Jun 2016 #10

No word on how he will change the way abortion is being WhiteTara Jun 2016 #11

Not much about that stuff bravenak Jun 2016 #14

Me either. I think it was telling that WhiteTara Jun 2016 #16

Once he called them the 'establishment' I knew what time it was bravenak Jun 2016 #20

Hell to the yes, my friend! I saw what time it was.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #121

It was brutal how they went after PP bravenak Jun 2016 #122

And dozens of people here explaining Bernie wants abortion on demand till they day of birth.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #149

He lost me last summer when I realized bravenak Jun 2016 #153

One-note Johnnie. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #198

Remember that Care-Bear who had that storm cloud for his patch? bravenak Jun 2016 #200

Jesus Bravenak, quit selling this crap. JCanete Jun 2016 #12

Nope. bravenak Jun 2016 #18

I don't care whether you care about white middle class men. If you cared about policies that JCanete Jun 2016 #34

The trouble is Bernie's policies are for white middle class men mostly Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #112

So free education and income inequality is for white middle class men and not PoC or women. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #137

He has no interest in social issues Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #172

+1000 Hekate Jun 2016 #217

"Everyone wants to fix income inequality" ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #230

Excellent points Demsrule86 RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #289

do you actually believe the shit you say? AntiBank Jun 2016 #246

Argh, enough already anigbrowl Jun 2016 #189

Oh gods yes. You articulate so well my central problem with Marxist economic critique. Hekate Jun 2016 #219

Bernie has always been good on those issues. He's not the one with a "nuanced" JCanete Jun 2016 #253

What did I say that was naive? You are characterizing my post and assuming that JCanete Jun 2016 #254

lol @ 'e-friends' melman Jun 2016 #44

I never told her not to comment bravenak Jun 2016 #53

+1000 stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #81

"White middle class men" - what age are you talking about? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #19

I'm talking about the votes Bernie got early in the campaign that were denigrated, used JCanete Jun 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak Jun 2016 #25

Do you let policies do any talking? Or do you just like soft cooing sounds? JCanete Jun 2016 #45

Policy takes compromise bravenak Jun 2016 #57

Compromise takes starting from a place of wanting something and demanding it. JCanete Jun 2016 #73

Attacking segments of the Democratic party is not demanding change bravenak Jun 2016 #78

attacking the influence on the democratic party that is too cozy with Wall Street and big money JCanete Jun 2016 #86

There has most CERTAINLY been a rise in wages for black americans bravenak Jun 2016 #93

I will look. but I'm not talking about there being a boost under Clinton. JCanete Jun 2016 #98

Just look. Things are better for us now than forty years ago bravenak Jun 2016 #99

Okay Bravenak, so here's a starting place. Tell me what I'm not understanding here, because JCanete Jun 2016 #255

White folks worry about the wealth gap between them and other rich white folks bravenak Jun 2016 #262

look at the wealth gap between white folks and black folks!!! look at the fact that it has increased JCanete Jun 2016 #265

We do not blame the banksters bravenak Jun 2016 #268

All of that is true except that you insist on ignoring human psychology and how JCanete Jun 2016 #274

If somebody is manipulated into harming you, do you give the actor a pass and just focus on bravenak Jun 2016 #275

It depends on what your agenda is. The question is do you want change, for the better, JCanete Jun 2016 #288

+1000 kacekwl Jun 2016 #249

As I've stated many times angrychair Jun 2016 #91

Jury results coming...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #83

Deleted it bravenak Jun 2016 #88

just finished a jury for this. Results will be posted soon. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #85

I took it down so I can stay on this thread. bravenak Jun 2016 #90

It would have survived. Stupid alert, like most on you I've seen. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #92

I know. I find it very tedious bravenak Jun 2016 #96

Which is the precise intent. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #125

Its about more than white middle class men, this group has fewer numbers than POC and women. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #23

Of course it is, and my point wasn't that was all that was ever needed. My point was that there was JCanete Jun 2016 #38

It is the responsibility of the candidates to present themselves in the primaries. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #42

Spoken like a person who must not believe that money has an influence on politics or the message. JCanete Jun 2016 #48

It isn't the money influence on politics, how many times has Sanders talked about Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #56

so you are saying, because I assume you believe it, that the media doesn't have a dog in the fight, JCanete Jun 2016 #68

Then after listening to Sanders he was not the one I should vote. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #84

It's the don't take yes for an answer mentality. Of all the good things about Bernie that brewens Jun 2016 #24

No, the DNC needs to change this NOW... no more "movements" without PoC issues at the top uponit7771 Jun 2016 #26

what are you talking about uponit? Why don't you tell me how Hillary's policies are better for JCanete Jun 2016 #39

Bernie's policies are pipe dreams. Compared to that Hillary's would kick ass. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #40

I think you just summed up a Hillary supporter's position, superbly, and even with JCanete Jun 2016 #49

Cool. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #50

So you are saying universal health care, free public college, $15 min wage are pipe dreams? The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #66

This is a national election not an election in Vermont BootinUp Jun 2016 #67

Well. We are going with Hillary, but our goals should still be our dreams. Even our "pipe" dreams. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #72

If she has the Congress to do it, she will stick to her campaign promises. BootinUp Jun 2016 #74

ooh ooh ooh, what were those? I'm totally going to hold her to the nothing she promised. nt JCanete Jun 2016 #89

The reason Bernie had to go after her character was exactly BootinUp Jun 2016 #95

So If congress takes the lead she my give it a hard look? Is that what you really said? The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #164

Its written the way I meant it. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #166

Thanks. It's all clear now. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #181

What about K-12...do you know how many poor kids are in crappy schools Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #106

Here's a little exercise in reality... Amimnoch Jun 2016 #159

Congress is controlled by the will of their constitutes unless(reality shows them corrupt) but The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #178

Pipe dreams ? So kacekwl Jun 2016 #250

Here's a response..I agree and thanks! Duval Jun 2016 #32

BINGO! Armstead Jun 2016 #264

Are you saying that there were no middle class white men in the Dem party before Bernie. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #266

That sure isn't what I was saying. That would have been convenient for you, but it doesn't reflect JCanete Jun 2016 #269

That is not what you said in the post that I responded to, so don't try and clean it up now. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #278

Maybe I did some clarifying, but I never said anywhere in my post what you claimed, JCanete Jun 2016 #280

you really can't stop. it's revealing. cali Jun 2016 #13

I don't hate anybody bravenak Jun 2016 #21

So stop fucking with others. You post nasty, ugly op after op cali Jun 2016 #31

Nothing is wrong with this op bravenak Jun 2016 #36

Having seen the stuff you post...that is hillarious. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #107

I agree with Cali Perogie Jun 2016 #186

Why should I post negative things about Hillary? bravenak Jun 2016 #193

"put his body on the line"... like millions of others. boy is he something special or what?? nt msongs Jun 2016 #37

We must owe him for all eternity bravenak Jun 2016 #60

no, millions of others- particularly millions of white people cali Jun 2016 #128

So do we owe him for all eternity? bravenak Jun 2016 #131

did I say anything remotely like that? No. Of course not. cali Jun 2016 #138

So if we dont owe him, what does it matter what he did fifty years ago? bravenak Jun 2016 #139

It matters as fact. Simple fact. cali Jun 2016 #156

Millions did do what he did bravenak Jun 2016 #160

I'm done. That is demonstrably false. cali Jun 2016 #169

I am overjoyed bravenak Jun 2016 #170

John Lewis put his body on the line for civil rights. How specifically did Sanders.... George II Jun 2016 #115

John Lewis, who had his skull bashed in for civil rights, was tossed under the bus for endorsing HRC Hekate Jun 2016 #224

You'll be pleased at this. SheilaT Jun 2016 #123

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #15

Whoomp! There it is! coyote Jun 2016 #17

LMFAO! Of course the crew hid that post. MelissaB Jun 2016 #69

Good Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #239

***********People need to see this********** MelissaB Jun 2016 #70

I couldn't understand the venom katsy Jun 2016 #76

We got it some time ago. Not worth reading. 840high Jun 2016 #180

Yes, we all know where the real racism in here is coming from. Fozzledick Jun 2016 #77

I can't believe that DU'ers voted to hide that one. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #183

Because it wasn't prefaced in a similar way to this: Contrary1 Jun 2016 #188

It is the "new, improved" DU. Sickening isn't it?nt nc4bo Jun 2016 #226

Oopsie. progressoid Jun 2016 #256

Hmmm, and what DUer was outed as a raging anti-semite recently? Arazi Jun 2016 #28

I notice some folks talk about nithing but me bravenak Jun 2016 #29

Lol, like that isn't your goal?! Arazi Jun 2016 #33

I love watching folks bravenak Jun 2016 #41

Oh yes, it is obvious you love it. Very obvious Arazi Jun 2016 #47

They should stop giving me thing to enjoy bravenak Jun 2016 #52

Fuck those who don't get what you are trying to do. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #108

Thank you bravenak Jun 2016 #148

you are welcome... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #176

Bernie made a conscious choice to de-emphasize civil rights issues in this campaign BootinUp Jun 2016 #27

Apparently we are just distractions bravenak Jun 2016 #30

Bernie's theory of how to get white working class votes forgot BootinUp Jun 2016 #35

IT damn sure did and I NOTICED bravenak Jun 2016 #51

Women's issues are just distractions, too. Oy. Hekate Jun 2016 #227

That's over half the population that are just 'distractions' bravenak Jun 2016 #228

Woman's issues too like abortion and contraceptive rights. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #110

Yes. Basically most social all issues. If a campaign does not BootinUp Jun 2016 #111

Absolutely Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #113

Bernie Sanders said in his stump speech that women have a right to control their bodies Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #152

No, Sanders spoke out in his stump speech against police brutality and Trump's racism. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #151

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #43

"Dear Jury: I didn't write it, but TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #46

Oh bother bravenak Jun 2016 #54

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #185

Good 'ole Bernie. Always inclusive. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #55

once again hobbit709 Jun 2016 #59

I have to agree with you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #63

Nobody likes being an afterthought. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #64

We always are bravenak Jun 2016 #65

I wonder how many POC he has even known as friends. cwydro Jun 2016 #71

Not very many in my opinion bravenak Jun 2016 #79

Interesting "note to jury" angrychair Jun 2016 #75

Why not find something better to do with your time? bravenak Jun 2016 #124

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #132

This op is in no way racist bravenak Jun 2016 #135

still countin' those spoons, eh? azurnoir Jun 2016 #80

They are mostly missing bravenak Jun 2016 #97

so who stole them? azurnoir Jun 2016 #100

A person with no honor bravenak Jun 2016 #102

who in your mind would that be? Name him please azurnoir Jun 2016 #104

You already know bravenak Jun 2016 #141

NO really I don't so please who is it? azurnoir Jun 2016 #163

The man who speaks of his honor so loudly bravenak Jun 2016 #165

again still confused azurnoir Jun 2016 #167

I don't believe... tonedevil Jun 2016 #184

Thanks but I don't think anyone here is confused azurnoir Jun 2016 #287

K&R mcar Jun 2016 #82

What is amusing angrychair Jun 2016 #87

If the Democratic Party is gong to Champion human rights, it must first make sure everyone shares Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #94

Exactly bravenak Jun 2016 #105

It cost Sanders my support. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #114

Bernie Sanders talked about women's issues and POC issues in his stump speech. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #175

A speach does not engage a community Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #187

I like how he thinks he criminal justice thing is so important to all Black voters. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #101

All we care about is jail bravenak Jun 2016 #103

I had forgotten he did that...damn he sounds almot GOP at times. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #116

Shhhh!!! bravenak Jun 2016 #118

Ok...our secret then...hehe nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #120

"... hanging out on street corners ..." NurseJackie Jun 2016 #126

It was shocking to hear him say that bravenak Jun 2016 #130

Bravenak - Bernie is a bad, bad man. Evil, nasty, mean, horrible, cranky, testy. Vinca Jun 2016 #109

why don't you follow your own advice...some of the posts on your side are awful. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #117

My "side" is the side of the country. Vinca Jun 2016 #244

You should not accuse him of hating those groups. He most certainly does NOT HATE anybody bravenak Jun 2016 #119

It's a shame you don't read what you post. Vinca Jun 2016 #245

Fuck this and fuck identity politics leftinportland Jun 2016 #127

The GOP HATES identity politics bravenak Jun 2016 #133

That is where you are wrong... leftinportland Jun 2016 #142

So do others who discount southern democrats as 'conservative' or 'confederates' bravenak Jun 2016 #143

Advocating for a 50 state strategy leftinportland Jun 2016 #157

Saying the south does not count is divisive bravenak Jun 2016 #161

You attribute this statement to who... leftinportland Jun 2016 #171

Weaver bravenak Jun 2016 #173

Context? leftinportland Jun 2016 #179

He was discussing the fact that he says they did not compete in the South bravenak Jun 2016 #192

Shut up faggot anigbrowl Jun 2016 #190

You know shit about me, who I am, where I've been.... leftinportland Jun 2016 #203

That's the whole point anigbrowl Jun 2016 #205

No that was not the point... leftinportland Jun 2016 #243

He flipped us off way before this speech Sunsky Jun 2016 #129

Yep bravenak Jun 2016 #134

Abso-fucking-lutely ridiculous. panader0 Jun 2016 #136

I thought it was very ridiculous that we are just a throw away line in a speech bravenak Jun 2016 #140

Yeah, Bernie never cared about civil rights, he never protested, panader0 Jun 2016 #144

Why do you keep saying he never cared! bravenak Jun 2016 #146

In his stump speech this year, Bernie Sanders talked about African-American issues. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #177

A speech and a rating is not a substitute for a connection with the community bravenak Jun 2016 #195

Finally just going to put you on ignore Marrah_G Jun 2016 #145

Please hurry bravenak Jun 2016 #147

Please note that even though your alert was not sent to a Jury, it has been forwarded to the Admini B Calm Jun 2016 #150

Why not send it to the jury? bravenak Jun 2016 #154

K&R heh betsuni Jun 2016 #155

Bernie Sanders talked about fighting racism in his speech last night. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #158

Barely bravenak Jun 2016 #162

Well, at least he finally flipped SOMETHING. randome Jun 2016 #168

I know right bravenak Jun 2016 #174

He's been doing that the whole primary. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #182

Yep bravenak Jun 2016 #194

Narcissists gotta narcissist. Maybe you'll get over 300 on this one. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #191

Sanders claim that voters in the south do not count irked me Gothmog Jun 2016 #196

Me too bravenak Jun 2016 #197

What goes around comes around...Karma is a bitch... alittlelark Jun 2016 #199

Please don't think about me in a personal manner bravenak Jun 2016 #201

You throw yourself out there begging for attention. alittlelark Jun 2016 #212

That's nice bravenak Jun 2016 #215

That's reality - and I think some part of you knows it. alittlelark Jun 2016 #218

Oh great. Umm hmm bravenak Jun 2016 #220

............ alittlelark Jun 2016 #225

He is the Dragonslayer fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #206

Don't back down, bravenak! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #207

. bravenak Jun 2016 #208

Thank you for posting this, brave. Cha Jun 2016 #211

Thanks for coming to see me. bravenak Jun 2016 #231

My pleasure.. Monday Monday.. Cha Jun 2016 #240

Can't wait! bravenak Jun 2016 #242

Really, Bernie cares about all people of colour. Is something wrong with you? akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #213

Nobody said he did not care bravenak Jun 2016 #216

Exactly. Cha Jun 2016 #233

People don't respond to constant ridicule well Go Vols Jun 2016 #221

That's nice bravenak Jun 2016 #223

Quite Go Vols Jun 2016 #229

yeah, but that's all BS did when ranting about Hillary and our Democratic Party.. we Cha Jun 2016 #234

Only people like us need to say it with sugar and a smile bravenak Jun 2016 #235

Right.. no "shouting"... Cha Jun 2016 #237

+1 for effort Go Vols Jun 2016 #238

. cui bono Jun 2016 #222

Not a word about Hillary's support for private prisons. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #232

So stop giving me attention then bravenak Jun 2016 #236

seriously, if you didn't want the attention from Bernie supporters, you wouldn't be posting JCanete Jun 2016 #257

This is no more inflammatory than the 'hillary going to jail' threads. bravenak Jun 2016 #260

+1000 MrWendel Jun 2016 #284

" fishing for attention" progressoid Jun 2016 #258

Post #15 is ***fascinating*** JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #241

+1 the truth is hidden! B Calm Jun 2016 #248

Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #247

You and the OP are too annoying and random to Alert on Armstead Jun 2016 #251

If it's really true, I am shocked. I voted for him. Stellar Jun 2016 #259

Of course it's true bravenak Jun 2016 #263

You're probably right, but I felt nothing for Clinton either. Stellar Jun 2016 #270

To Be honest I have no love for any politician bravenak Jun 2016 #271

hear, hear! nt Stellar Jun 2016 #285

KnR for POST #15...let the truth set you free. coyote Jun 2016 #267

"Yeah, black voters had Bernie all wrong, didn�t they?" BAM!! BOOOOMM!! Number23 Jun 2016 #286

Cause gifting us with Cornell West FrenchieCat Jun 2016 #290

Tell it. And the fact that we were apparently all supposed to pretend that the slap in the face Number23 Jun 2016 #291

It was unbelievable how tone deaf one campaign could be. bravenak Jun 2016 #292

+1, one of the reasons black women have a very low suicide rate is because of the BS detector and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #293