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2016 Postmortem

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w4rma

(31,700 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2016, 11:03 PM Jun 2016

Why Bernie Sanders has absolutely nothing to lose by staying in the presidential race [View all]

Source: The Washington Post | The Fix

To those grumblers I would say two things: (1) It makes no sense for Sanders to get out of the race right now, and (2) You have no way of getting him out anyway.

Remember that most politicians drop out of races because they run out of money and/or they are looking to their political future and want to make sure they leave a good impression with party leaders. "He ran a good race — and got out when he should have," is the sort of approving sentiment I've had expressed to me myriad times by members of both parties' political establishment over the years about a rising star pol.

Here's the thing with Sanders: He's never been a Democrat before. Yes, he caucuses with Democrats in the Senate. Yes, he ran (and is running) for president as a Democrat. But, Sanders isn't someone who has ever been part of the Democratic party apparatus. He's not someone who is terribly worried about what the party could (or would) do to him if he stays in the presidential race longer than "they" see fit. And, at 74, it's very unlikely Sanders has an eye on 2020 or 2024 to make a repeat run for president.

In short, none of the levers that the party typically pushes to get unwanted candidates out of races works on Sanders. Can you imagine if in a closely divided Senate in 2017, Majority Leader/Minority Leader Chuck Schumer said that Sanders couldn't caucus with Democrats anymore because he didn't endorse Clinton at the right time? No, you can't imagine it because it would literally never happen. Or how about if Schumer stripped Sanders of his committee assignments or even pushed him off one of the marquee committees on which he currently sits? Sanders — and the millions of people who support him — would instantly go bananas. And, because of Sanders's national profile, it would be a huge national story.

Less talked about, but no less important is the fact that the Justice Department is still investigating Clinton's decision to use a private email server to exclusively handle her electronic communication during her time as secretary of state. While the expectation has been for months that an announcement of the investigation's finding was coming within days, no word has come yet.

If you are Sanders — and you know there's not a whole hell of a lot that the Democratic Party can do to actually hurt you — why not stay in the race for a while longer just in case the FBI either indicts Clinton or severely reprimands her? Neither seems likely. (Note: I am not a lawyer!) But, if you have been actively running for president for much of the past 18 months, why would you end your candidacy now with an investigation involving your opponent still ongoing?

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/06/17/why-bernie-sanders-has-absolutely-nothing-to-lose-by-staying-in-the-presidential-race/
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Probably but staying in would end his formal association with the D party. ucrdem Jun 2016 #1
Your statement leaves the impression that you didn't read the article. w4rma Jun 2016 #2
I pointed this out a year ago. ucrdem Jun 2016 #5
Spoken like a true neoliberal who wants to marginalize progressives as much as possible. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #6
I've seen one or two "peoples" campaigns that were anything but. ucrdem Jun 2016 #8
Cryptic. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #9
Oh puh-leeze, cut the crap. You people have a persecution complex down cold n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #12
My interpretation of the poster's words are accurate. And the poster didn't disagree. (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #16
I generally don't disagree with meaningless nonsequiturs, no. nt ucrdem Jun 2016 #17
I don't think you know what the meaning of "meaningless" is, nor "non-sequitur". (nt) w4rma Jun 2016 #21
Right. But the DNC better not accept his "representatives" to the platform convention question everything Jun 2016 #19
If he's waiting around 'just in case', why doesn't he just suspend...then he can always reenter if eastwestdem Jun 2016 #3
Go back and edit with this included RobertEarl Jun 2016 #4
You had me at #1 DianaForRussFeingold Jun 2016 #7
yep +10 840high Jun 2016 #10
I wonder what happened in Tuesday night's meeting spud_demon Jun 2016 #11
Clinton campaign continued after backing Obama (so much for "conceding") k8conant Jun 2016 #13
Upside + No Downside = Right Decision pat_k Jun 2016 #14
He has something to gain from good relations creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #15
Does he mention anywhere that he wants them to run as Dems or get involved in Dem organizing? ucrdem Jun 2016 #20
Not that I can find creeksneakers2 Jun 2016 #23
To me it looks for all the world like he's planning a 3rd party run. ucrdem Jun 2016 #24
An Opposing View jamese777 Jun 2016 #18
There is no more race BainsBane Jun 2016 #22
It depends on whether you think Clinton would make a better president than Trump. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #25
Just a thought...Bernie promised to not run as a 3rd Party candidate demwing Jun 2016 #26
I think that depends on how the negotiations turn out. Hopefully, Hillary doesn't dig in like many w4rma Jun 2016 #27
IIRC, he promised he would not run "as a spoiler." merrily Jun 2016 #28
He is marginalizing himself and risks becoming a sad joke. If he had endorsed on the Obama/Warren Squinch Jun 2016 #29
Kick (nt) bigwillq Jun 2016 #30
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