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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Bernie Sanders Flips off Black Voters (figuratively) on his Way out the Door [View all]Surya Gayatri
(15,445 posts)247. Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on.
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Bernie Sanders Flips off Black Voters (figuratively) on his Way out the Door [View all]
bravenak
Jun 2016
OP
Yes, his civil rights actions in the 60s were merely publicity stunts...
thesquanderer
Jun 2016
#252
Good point about over-zealous supporters. But still I don't think that justifies the premise that...
thesquanderer
Jun 2016
#276
And dozens of people here explaining Bernie wants abortion on demand till they day of birth....
bettyellen
Jun 2016
#149
I don't care whether you care about white middle class men. If you cared about policies that
JCanete
Jun 2016
#34
So free education and income inequality is for white middle class men and not PoC or women.
cherokeeprogressive
Jun 2016
#137
Oh gods yes. You articulate so well my central problem with Marxist economic critique.
Hekate
Jun 2016
#219
Bernie has always been good on those issues. He's not the one with a "nuanced"
JCanete
Jun 2016
#253
What did I say that was naive? You are characterizing my post and assuming that
JCanete
Jun 2016
#254
I'm talking about the votes Bernie got early in the campaign that were denigrated, used
JCanete
Jun 2016
#22
attacking the influence on the democratic party that is too cozy with Wall Street and big money
JCanete
Jun 2016
#86
Okay Bravenak, so here's a starting place. Tell me what I'm not understanding here, because
JCanete
Jun 2016
#255
White folks worry about the wealth gap between them and other rich white folks
bravenak
Jun 2016
#262
look at the wealth gap between white folks and black folks!!! look at the fact that it has increased
JCanete
Jun 2016
#265
All of that is true except that you insist on ignoring human psychology and how
JCanete
Jun 2016
#274
If somebody is manipulated into harming you, do you give the actor a pass and just focus on
bravenak
Jun 2016
#275
It depends on what your agenda is. The question is do you want change, for the better,
JCanete
Jun 2016
#288
Its about more than white middle class men, this group has fewer numbers than POC and women.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#23
Of course it is, and my point wasn't that was all that was ever needed. My point was that there was
JCanete
Jun 2016
#38
It is the responsibility of the candidates to present themselves in the primaries.
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#42
Spoken like a person who must not believe that money has an influence on politics or the message.
JCanete
Jun 2016
#48
It isn't the money influence on politics, how many times has Sanders talked about
Thinkingabout
Jun 2016
#56
so you are saying, because I assume you believe it, that the media doesn't have a dog in the fight,
JCanete
Jun 2016
#68
It's the don't take yes for an answer mentality. Of all the good things about Bernie that
brewens
Jun 2016
#24
No, the DNC needs to change this NOW... no more "movements" without PoC issues at the top
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#26
what are you talking about uponit? Why don't you tell me how Hillary's policies are better for
JCanete
Jun 2016
#39
Bernie's policies are pipe dreams. Compared to that Hillary's would kick ass. nt
BootinUp
Jun 2016
#40
I think you just summed up a Hillary supporter's position, superbly, and even with
JCanete
Jun 2016
#49
So you are saying universal health care, free public college, $15 min wage are pipe dreams?
The Wielding Truth
Jun 2016
#66
Well. We are going with Hillary, but our goals should still be our dreams. Even our "pipe" dreams.
The Wielding Truth
Jun 2016
#72
ooh ooh ooh, what were those? I'm totally going to hold her to the nothing she promised. nt
JCanete
Jun 2016
#89
So If congress takes the lead she my give it a hard look? Is that what you really said?
The Wielding Truth
Jun 2016
#164
Congress is controlled by the will of their constitutes unless(reality shows them corrupt) but
The Wielding Truth
Jun 2016
#178
Are you saying that there were no middle class white men in the Dem party before Bernie.
politicaljunkie41910
Jun 2016
#266
That sure isn't what I was saying. That would have been convenient for you, but it doesn't reflect
JCanete
Jun 2016
#269
That is not what you said in the post that I responded to, so don't try and clean it up now.
politicaljunkie41910
Jun 2016
#278
Maybe I did some clarifying, but I never said anywhere in my post what you claimed,
JCanete
Jun 2016
#280
"put his body on the line"... like millions of others. boy is he something special or what?? nt
msongs
Jun 2016
#37
John Lewis put his body on the line for civil rights. How specifically did Sanders....
George II
Jun 2016
#115
John Lewis, who had his skull bashed in for civil rights, was tossed under the bus for endorsing HRC
Hekate
Jun 2016
#224
Bernie made a conscious choice to de-emphasize civil rights issues in this campaign
BootinUp
Jun 2016
#27
Bernie Sanders said in his stump speech that women have a right to control their bodies
Eric J in MN
Jun 2016
#152
No, Sanders spoke out in his stump speech against police brutality and Trump's racism. NT
Eric J in MN
Jun 2016
#151
If the Democratic Party is gong to Champion human rights, it must first make sure everyone shares
Agnosticsherbet
Jun 2016
#94
Bernie Sanders talked about women's issues and POC issues in his stump speech.
Eric J in MN
Jun 2016
#175
I like how he thinks he criminal justice thing is so important to all Black voters.
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#101
Bravenak - Bernie is a bad, bad man. Evil, nasty, mean, horrible, cranky, testy.
Vinca
Jun 2016
#109
why don't you follow your own advice...some of the posts on your side are awful.
Demsrule86
Jun 2016
#117
You should not accuse him of hating those groups. He most certainly does NOT HATE anybody
bravenak
Jun 2016
#119
So do others who discount southern democrats as 'conservative' or 'confederates'
bravenak
Jun 2016
#143
I thought it was very ridiculous that we are just a throw away line in a speech
bravenak
Jun 2016
#140
In his stump speech this year, Bernie Sanders talked about African-American issues.
Eric J in MN
Jun 2016
#177
A speech and a rating is not a substitute for a connection with the community
bravenak
Jun 2016
#195
Please note that even though your alert was not sent to a Jury, it has been forwarded to the Admini
B Calm
Jun 2016
#150
Narcissists gotta narcissist. Maybe you'll get over 300 on this one. nt
riderinthestorm
Jun 2016
#191
Really, Bernie cares about all people of colour. Is something wrong with you?
akbacchus_BC
Jun 2016
#213
yeah, but that's all BS did when ranting about Hillary and our Democratic Party.. we
Cha
Jun 2016
#234
seriously, if you didn't want the attention from Bernie supporters, you wouldn't be posting
JCanete
Jun 2016
#257
Tell it. And the fact that we were apparently all supposed to pretend that the slap in the face
Number23
Jun 2016
#291
+1, one of the reasons black women have a very low suicide rate is because of the BS detector and
uponit7771
Jun 2016
#293