2016 Postmortem

Armstead

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251. You and the OP are too annoying and random to Alert on

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 09:53 AM

Jun 2016

Were I on a jury, I'd vote to leave it because you're not denying TOS

But you really are an insulting piece of work. Just because he did not aim his entire speech to POC issues, he's flipping them off? Really.

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Bernie Sanders Flips off Black Voters (figuratively) on his Way out the Door [View all] bravenak Jun 2016 OP

I'd put that 'Note to Jury' at the top ... just so it wasn't missed n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #1

I'll post it at the top too bravenak Jun 2016 #4

thanks for posting. Bernie has no special love for minorities MariaThinks Jun 2016 #58

Very apparent bravenak Jun 2016 #61

Yes, his civil rights actions in the 60s were merely publicity stunts... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #252

It was TOO LONG AGO to be relevant enough for us to feel a connection to him bravenak Jun 2016 #261

More rules at whim. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #272

We liked him just fine bravenak Jun 2016 #273

Good point about over-zealous supporters. But still I don't think that justifies the premise that... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #276

The concern for us is dwarfed by his concern about billionaires. bravenak Jun 2016 #277

re: "His top three staffers were white guys" thesquanderer Jun 2016 #279

He started the campaign nearly a year before that date of jan 30 bravenak Jun 2016 #281

re: "he was not competing in the south" - He tried hard in SC. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #282

I think it was less about money and more about how we operate bravenak Jun 2016 #283

Is it Monday yet? Maybe I'll sleep the weekend away. floriduck Jun 2016 #62

Always a good idea Hekate Jun 2016 #214

But the truth hurts some people's feelings little too easily. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #2

It sure does bravenak Jun 2016 #6

Unlike sore winners.... Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #202

I thought it was not over until the convention? bravenak Jun 2016 #204

Actually no...you know it is over - stop pouting Silver_Witch Jun 2016 #209

lol bravenak Jun 2016 #210

who? zappaman Jun 2016 #3

There was this guy once who wanted to be coronated bravenak Jun 2016 #5

Well he wrote PoC off when he dismissed the whole south workinclasszero Jun 2016 #7

He never really says anything different bravenak Jun 2016 #8

I didn't listen to the speech WhiteTara Jun 2016 #9

Mentioned us in passing bravenak Jun 2016 #10

No word on how he will change the way abortion is being WhiteTara Jun 2016 #11

Not much about that stuff bravenak Jun 2016 #14

Me either. I think it was telling that WhiteTara Jun 2016 #16

Once he called them the 'establishment' I knew what time it was bravenak Jun 2016 #20

Hell to the yes, my friend! I saw what time it was.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #121

It was brutal how they went after PP bravenak Jun 2016 #122

And dozens of people here explaining Bernie wants abortion on demand till they day of birth.... bettyellen Jun 2016 #149

He lost me last summer when I realized bravenak Jun 2016 #153

One-note Johnnie. Maru Kitteh Jun 2016 #198

Remember that Care-Bear who had that storm cloud for his patch? bravenak Jun 2016 #200

Jesus Bravenak, quit selling this crap. JCanete Jun 2016 #12

Nope. bravenak Jun 2016 #18

I don't care whether you care about white middle class men. If you cared about policies that JCanete Jun 2016 #34

The trouble is Bernie's policies are for white middle class men mostly Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #112

So free education and income inequality is for white middle class men and not PoC or women. cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #137

He has no interest in social issues Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #172

+1000 Hekate Jun 2016 #217

"Everyone wants to fix income inequality" ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #230

Excellent points Demsrule86 RogueTrooper Jun 2016 #289

do you actually believe the shit you say? AntiBank Jun 2016 #246

Argh, enough already anigbrowl Jun 2016 #189

Oh gods yes. You articulate so well my central problem with Marxist economic critique. Hekate Jun 2016 #219

Bernie has always been good on those issues. He's not the one with a "nuanced" JCanete Jun 2016 #253

What did I say that was naive? You are characterizing my post and assuming that JCanete Jun 2016 #254

lol @ 'e-friends' melman Jun 2016 #44

I never told her not to comment bravenak Jun 2016 #53

+1000 stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #81

"White middle class men" - what age are you talking about? tonyt53 Jun 2016 #19

I'm talking about the votes Bernie got early in the campaign that were denigrated, used JCanete Jun 2016 #22

This message was self-deleted by its author bravenak Jun 2016 #25

Do you let policies do any talking? Or do you just like soft cooing sounds? JCanete Jun 2016 #45

Policy takes compromise bravenak Jun 2016 #57

Compromise takes starting from a place of wanting something and demanding it. JCanete Jun 2016 #73

Attacking segments of the Democratic party is not demanding change bravenak Jun 2016 #78

attacking the influence on the democratic party that is too cozy with Wall Street and big money JCanete Jun 2016 #86

There has most CERTAINLY been a rise in wages for black americans bravenak Jun 2016 #93

I will look. but I'm not talking about there being a boost under Clinton. JCanete Jun 2016 #98

Just look. Things are better for us now than forty years ago bravenak Jun 2016 #99

Okay Bravenak, so here's a starting place. Tell me what I'm not understanding here, because JCanete Jun 2016 #255

White folks worry about the wealth gap between them and other rich white folks bravenak Jun 2016 #262

look at the wealth gap between white folks and black folks!!! look at the fact that it has increased JCanete Jun 2016 #265

We do not blame the banksters bravenak Jun 2016 #268

All of that is true except that you insist on ignoring human psychology and how JCanete Jun 2016 #274

If somebody is manipulated into harming you, do you give the actor a pass and just focus on bravenak Jun 2016 #275

It depends on what your agenda is. The question is do you want change, for the better, JCanete Jun 2016 #288

+1000 kacekwl Jun 2016 #249

As I've stated many times angrychair Jun 2016 #91

Jury results coming...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #83

Deleted it bravenak Jun 2016 #88

just finished a jury for this. Results will be posted soon. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #85

I took it down so I can stay on this thread. bravenak Jun 2016 #90

It would have survived. Stupid alert, like most on you I've seen. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #92

I know. I find it very tedious bravenak Jun 2016 #96

Which is the precise intent. PeaceNikki Jun 2016 #125

Its about more than white middle class men, this group has fewer numbers than POC and women. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #23

Of course it is, and my point wasn't that was all that was ever needed. My point was that there was JCanete Jun 2016 #38

It is the responsibility of the candidates to present themselves in the primaries. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #42

Spoken like a person who must not believe that money has an influence on politics or the message. JCanete Jun 2016 #48

It isn't the money influence on politics, how many times has Sanders talked about Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #56

so you are saying, because I assume you believe it, that the media doesn't have a dog in the fight, JCanete Jun 2016 #68

Then after listening to Sanders he was not the one I should vote. Thinkingabout Jun 2016 #84

It's the don't take yes for an answer mentality. Of all the good things about Bernie that brewens Jun 2016 #24

No, the DNC needs to change this NOW... no more "movements" without PoC issues at the top uponit7771 Jun 2016 #26

what are you talking about uponit? Why don't you tell me how Hillary's policies are better for JCanete Jun 2016 #39

Bernie's policies are pipe dreams. Compared to that Hillary's would kick ass. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #40

I think you just summed up a Hillary supporter's position, superbly, and even with JCanete Jun 2016 #49

Cool. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #50

So you are saying universal health care, free public college, $15 min wage are pipe dreams? The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #66

This is a national election not an election in Vermont BootinUp Jun 2016 #67

Well. We are going with Hillary, but our goals should still be our dreams. Even our "pipe" dreams. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #72

If she has the Congress to do it, she will stick to her campaign promises. BootinUp Jun 2016 #74

ooh ooh ooh, what were those? I'm totally going to hold her to the nothing she promised. nt JCanete Jun 2016 #89

The reason Bernie had to go after her character was exactly BootinUp Jun 2016 #95

So If congress takes the lead she my give it a hard look? Is that what you really said? The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #164

Its written the way I meant it. nt BootinUp Jun 2016 #166

Thanks. It's all clear now. The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #181

What about K-12...do you know how many poor kids are in crappy schools Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #106

Here's a little exercise in reality... Amimnoch Jun 2016 #159

Congress is controlled by the will of their constitutes unless(reality shows them corrupt) but The Wielding Truth Jun 2016 #178

Pipe dreams ? So kacekwl Jun 2016 #250

Here's a response..I agree and thanks! Duval Jun 2016 #32

BINGO! Armstead Jun 2016 #264

Are you saying that there were no middle class white men in the Dem party before Bernie. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #266

That sure isn't what I was saying. That would have been convenient for you, but it doesn't reflect JCanete Jun 2016 #269

That is not what you said in the post that I responded to, so don't try and clean it up now. politicaljunkie41910 Jun 2016 #278

Maybe I did some clarifying, but I never said anywhere in my post what you claimed, JCanete Jun 2016 #280

you really can't stop. it's revealing. cali Jun 2016 #13

I don't hate anybody bravenak Jun 2016 #21

So stop fucking with others. You post nasty, ugly op after op cali Jun 2016 #31

Nothing is wrong with this op bravenak Jun 2016 #36

Having seen the stuff you post...that is hillarious. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #107

I agree with Cali Perogie Jun 2016 #186

Why should I post negative things about Hillary? bravenak Jun 2016 #193

"put his body on the line"... like millions of others. boy is he something special or what?? nt msongs Jun 2016 #37

We must owe him for all eternity bravenak Jun 2016 #60

no, millions of others- particularly millions of white people cali Jun 2016 #128

So do we owe him for all eternity? bravenak Jun 2016 #131

did I say anything remotely like that? No. Of course not. cali Jun 2016 #138

So if we dont owe him, what does it matter what he did fifty years ago? bravenak Jun 2016 #139

It matters as fact. Simple fact. cali Jun 2016 #156

Millions did do what he did bravenak Jun 2016 #160

I'm done. That is demonstrably false. cali Jun 2016 #169

I am overjoyed bravenak Jun 2016 #170

John Lewis put his body on the line for civil rights. How specifically did Sanders.... George II Jun 2016 #115

John Lewis, who had his skull bashed in for civil rights, was tossed under the bus for endorsing HRC Hekate Jun 2016 #224

You'll be pleased at this. SheilaT Jun 2016 #123

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #15

Whoomp! There it is! coyote Jun 2016 #17

LMFAO! Of course the crew hid that post. MelissaB Jun 2016 #69

Good Bobbie Jo Jun 2016 #239

***********People need to see this********** MelissaB Jun 2016 #70

I couldn't understand the venom katsy Jun 2016 #76

We got it some time ago. Not worth reading. 840high Jun 2016 #180

Yes, we all know where the real racism in here is coming from. Fozzledick Jun 2016 #77

I can't believe that DU'ers voted to hide that one. -nt- NorthCarolina Jun 2016 #183

Because it wasn't prefaced in a similar way to this: Contrary1 Jun 2016 #188

It is the "new, improved" DU. Sickening isn't it?nt nc4bo Jun 2016 #226

Oopsie. progressoid Jun 2016 #256

Hmmm, and what DUer was outed as a raging anti-semite recently? Arazi Jun 2016 #28

I notice some folks talk about nithing but me bravenak Jun 2016 #29

Lol, like that isn't your goal?! Arazi Jun 2016 #33

I love watching folks bravenak Jun 2016 #41

Oh yes, it is obvious you love it. Very obvious Arazi Jun 2016 #47

They should stop giving me thing to enjoy bravenak Jun 2016 #52

Fuck those who don't get what you are trying to do. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #108

Thank you bravenak Jun 2016 #148

you are welcome... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #176

Bernie made a conscious choice to de-emphasize civil rights issues in this campaign BootinUp Jun 2016 #27

Apparently we are just distractions bravenak Jun 2016 #30

Bernie's theory of how to get white working class votes forgot BootinUp Jun 2016 #35

IT damn sure did and I NOTICED bravenak Jun 2016 #51

Women's issues are just distractions, too. Oy. Hekate Jun 2016 #227

That's over half the population that are just 'distractions' bravenak Jun 2016 #228

Woman's issues too like abortion and contraceptive rights. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #110

Yes. Basically most social all issues. If a campaign does not BootinUp Jun 2016 #111

Absolutely Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #113

Bernie Sanders said in his stump speech that women have a right to control their bodies Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #152

No, Sanders spoke out in his stump speech against police brutality and Trump's racism. NT Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #151

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #43

"Dear Jury: I didn't write it, but TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #46

Oh bother bravenak Jun 2016 #54

...!100++++ 840high Jun 2016 #185

Good 'ole Bernie. Always inclusive. nt eastwestdem Jun 2016 #55

once again hobbit709 Jun 2016 #59

I have to agree with you. Baitball Blogger Jun 2016 #63

Nobody likes being an afterthought. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #64

We always are bravenak Jun 2016 #65

I wonder how many POC he has even known as friends. cwydro Jun 2016 #71

Not very many in my opinion bravenak Jun 2016 #79

Interesting "note to jury" angrychair Jun 2016 #75

Why not find something better to do with your time? bravenak Jun 2016 #124

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #132

This op is in no way racist bravenak Jun 2016 #135

still countin' those spoons, eh? azurnoir Jun 2016 #80

They are mostly missing bravenak Jun 2016 #97

so who stole them? azurnoir Jun 2016 #100

A person with no honor bravenak Jun 2016 #102

who in your mind would that be? Name him please azurnoir Jun 2016 #104

You already know bravenak Jun 2016 #141

NO really I don't so please who is it? azurnoir Jun 2016 #163

The man who speaks of his honor so loudly bravenak Jun 2016 #165

again still confused azurnoir Jun 2016 #167

I don't believe... tonedevil Jun 2016 #184

Thanks but I don't think anyone here is confused azurnoir Jun 2016 #287

K&R mcar Jun 2016 #82

What is amusing angrychair Jun 2016 #87

If the Democratic Party is gong to Champion human rights, it must first make sure everyone shares Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #94

Exactly bravenak Jun 2016 #105

It cost Sanders my support. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #114

Bernie Sanders talked about women's issues and POC issues in his stump speech. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #175

A speach does not engage a community Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #187

I like how he thinks he criminal justice thing is so important to all Black voters. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #101

All we care about is jail bravenak Jun 2016 #103

I had forgotten he did that...damn he sounds almot GOP at times. nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #116

Shhhh!!! bravenak Jun 2016 #118

Ok...our secret then...hehe nt Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #120

"... hanging out on street corners ..." NurseJackie Jun 2016 #126

It was shocking to hear him say that bravenak Jun 2016 #130

Bravenak - Bernie is a bad, bad man. Evil, nasty, mean, horrible, cranky, testy. Vinca Jun 2016 #109

why don't you follow your own advice...some of the posts on your side are awful. Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #117

My "side" is the side of the country. Vinca Jun 2016 #244

You should not accuse him of hating those groups. He most certainly does NOT HATE anybody bravenak Jun 2016 #119

It's a shame you don't read what you post. Vinca Jun 2016 #245

Fuck this and fuck identity politics leftinportland Jun 2016 #127

The GOP HATES identity politics bravenak Jun 2016 #133

That is where you are wrong... leftinportland Jun 2016 #142

So do others who discount southern democrats as 'conservative' or 'confederates' bravenak Jun 2016 #143

Advocating for a 50 state strategy leftinportland Jun 2016 #157

Saying the south does not count is divisive bravenak Jun 2016 #161

You attribute this statement to who... leftinportland Jun 2016 #171

Weaver bravenak Jun 2016 #173

Context? leftinportland Jun 2016 #179

He was discussing the fact that he says they did not compete in the South bravenak Jun 2016 #192

Shut up faggot anigbrowl Jun 2016 #190

You know shit about me, who I am, where I've been.... leftinportland Jun 2016 #203

That's the whole point anigbrowl Jun 2016 #205

No that was not the point... leftinportland Jun 2016 #243

He flipped us off way before this speech Sunsky Jun 2016 #129

Yep bravenak Jun 2016 #134

Abso-fucking-lutely ridiculous. panader0 Jun 2016 #136

I thought it was very ridiculous that we are just a throw away line in a speech bravenak Jun 2016 #140

Yeah, Bernie never cared about civil rights, he never protested, panader0 Jun 2016 #144

Why do you keep saying he never cared! bravenak Jun 2016 #146

In his stump speech this year, Bernie Sanders talked about African-American issues. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #177

A speech and a rating is not a substitute for a connection with the community bravenak Jun 2016 #195

Finally just going to put you on ignore Marrah_G Jun 2016 #145

Please hurry bravenak Jun 2016 #147

Please note that even though your alert was not sent to a Jury, it has been forwarded to the Admini B Calm Jun 2016 #150

Why not send it to the jury? bravenak Jun 2016 #154

K&R heh betsuni Jun 2016 #155

Bernie Sanders talked about fighting racism in his speech last night. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #158

Barely bravenak Jun 2016 #162

Well, at least he finally flipped SOMETHING. randome Jun 2016 #168

I know right bravenak Jun 2016 #174

He's been doing that the whole primary. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #182

Yep bravenak Jun 2016 #194

Narcissists gotta narcissist. Maybe you'll get over 300 on this one. nt riderinthestorm Jun 2016 #191

Sanders claim that voters in the south do not count irked me Gothmog Jun 2016 #196

Me too bravenak Jun 2016 #197

What goes around comes around...Karma is a bitch... alittlelark Jun 2016 #199

Please don't think about me in a personal manner bravenak Jun 2016 #201

You throw yourself out there begging for attention. alittlelark Jun 2016 #212

That's nice bravenak Jun 2016 #215

That's reality - and I think some part of you knows it. alittlelark Jun 2016 #218

Oh great. Umm hmm bravenak Jun 2016 #220

............ alittlelark Jun 2016 #225

He is the Dragonslayer fleabiscuit Jun 2016 #206

Don't back down, bravenak! Night Watchman Jun 2016 #207

. bravenak Jun 2016 #208

Thank you for posting this, brave. Cha Jun 2016 #211

Thanks for coming to see me. bravenak Jun 2016 #231

My pleasure.. Monday Monday.. Cha Jun 2016 #240

Can't wait! bravenak Jun 2016 #242

Really, Bernie cares about all people of colour. Is something wrong with you? akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #213

Nobody said he did not care bravenak Jun 2016 #216

Exactly. Cha Jun 2016 #233

People don't respond to constant ridicule well Go Vols Jun 2016 #221

That's nice bravenak Jun 2016 #223

Quite Go Vols Jun 2016 #229

yeah, but that's all BS did when ranting about Hillary and our Democratic Party.. we Cha Jun 2016 #234

Only people like us need to say it with sugar and a smile bravenak Jun 2016 #235

Right.. no "shouting"... Cha Jun 2016 #237

+1 for effort Go Vols Jun 2016 #238

. cui bono Jun 2016 #222

Not a word about Hillary's support for private prisons. ForgoTheConsequence Jun 2016 #232

So stop giving me attention then bravenak Jun 2016 #236

seriously, if you didn't want the attention from Bernie supporters, you wouldn't be posting JCanete Jun 2016 #257

This is no more inflammatory than the 'hillary going to jail' threads. bravenak Jun 2016 #260

+1000 MrWendel Jun 2016 #284

" fishing for attention" progressoid Jun 2016 #258

Post #15 is ***fascinating*** JonLeibowitz Jun 2016 #241

+1 the truth is hidden! B Calm Jun 2016 #248

Massive K & R. Thanks for posting. So spot on. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #247

You and the OP are too annoying and random to Alert on Armstead Jun 2016 #251

If it's really true, I am shocked. I voted for him. Stellar Jun 2016 #259

Of course it's true bravenak Jun 2016 #263

You're probably right, but I felt nothing for Clinton either. Stellar Jun 2016 #270

To Be honest I have no love for any politician bravenak Jun 2016 #271

hear, hear! nt Stellar Jun 2016 #285

KnR for POST #15...let the truth set you free. coyote Jun 2016 #267

"Yeah, black voters had Bernie all wrong, didn�t they?" BAM!! BOOOOMM!! Number23 Jun 2016 #286

Cause gifting us with Cornell West FrenchieCat Jun 2016 #290

Tell it. And the fact that we were apparently all supposed to pretend that the slap in the face Number23 Jun 2016 #291

It was unbelievable how tone deaf one campaign could be. bravenak Jun 2016 #292

+1, one of the reasons black women have a very low suicide rate is because of the BS detector and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #293