2016 Postmortem

Chathamization

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26. Closed primaries don't stop that.

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:36 AM

Jun 2016

If you canvass in heavily blue areas, you'll come across some Republicans who are registered as Democrats because they want a say in how their local government is run. Closed primaries are more likely to keep out the more idealistic individuals who don't think they should have to become a member of a party. Those people seem unlikely to game the system (since they could do so right now if they wanted, but aren't for ideological reasons).

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Sanders Makes Push to Change Party Rules [View all] brooklynite Jun 2016 OP

The only open primaries I would support is DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #1

I still don't like it, what happens if one party has a Presumptive Nominee and the other doesn't? nt SFnomad Jun 2016 #6

The more you peer into it the more sense closed primaries make. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #7

Agree 100% n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #8

Too much room for games...This isn't really a tough concept. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #11

States with open primaries don't seem to be suffering from many problems Chathamization Jun 2016 #19

Are you kidding? Conservatives came in Hortensis Jun 2016 #35

You are not in reality AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #43

Analysis of every open primary shows Hortensis Jun 2016 #47

Hortensis---Thank you! Well put. I agree with you. This seems to be more about BS's bitterness at skylucy Jun 2016 #58

Agreed and lets get rid of caucused Gothmog Jun 2016 #14

For once I agree with you. -none Jun 2016 #16

Democratic Primaries are for Democrats. The GE is open. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #2

The primaries are for the people to decide. -none Jun 2016 #17

Why should the Republicans decide who the Democratic candidate is or vice versa? JTFrog Jun 2016 #18

Fair and open voting is not mob rule. -none Jun 2016 #20

It is if you aren't willing to just do away with the parties altogether. n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #21

The purpose of the primaries is to select a leading candidate for the whole country. -none Jun 2016 #22

No, that is the purpose of the GE and it is completely open. JTFrog Jun 2016 #23

But the Democratic party preselected the candidate they wanted before the primaries even started. -none Jun 2016 #29

This is also false uponit7771 Jun 2016 #38

This is false uponit7771 Jun 2016 #37

Can you explain why you think it is false? -none Jun 2016 #39

Party primaries are for parties, not the nation uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41

This response doesn't address the question at hand, open primaries would allow for reThugs to uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36

That has never been a real problem with either party. -none Jun 2016 #44

Cause the primaries have been mostly closed .... and... no one wants to open the door for reThugs to uponit7771 Jun 2016 #45

There is plenty wrong with the way the Democratic primaries are run. -none Jun 2016 #57

True, nothings perfect... I don't know if the guy who lost is the best person to right the wrongs uponit7771 Jun 2016 #60

I agree! skylucy Jun 2016 #59

Closed primaries don't stop that. Chathamization Jun 2016 #26

In very small numbers as opposed to just opening it up to the opposition. n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #27

It's already open, though. There's nothing stopping massive amounts of Republicans from registering Chathamization Jun 2016 #28

Then they have to go through the process of registering and can't vote in both, that's the point uponit7771 Jun 2016 #40

They can't vote in both in open primary states, either. Chathamization Jun 2016 #46

They can and get caught later... IF there's a check on them. Either way, no need to make it easier uponit7771 Jun 2016 #48

Oh, yes. His WANTING open primaries Hortensis Jun 2016 #50

No, that would be voter fraud. This is like people pushing voter ID laws. Chathamization Jun 2016 #52

Conservative Democrats are just as much Hortensis Jun 2016 #49

I'm not talking about conservative Democrats, I'm talking about actual Republicans Chathamization Jun 2016 #51

the people...who are democrats decide in primaries. the people...who are not have the general nt msongs Jun 2016 #30

Who are to decide who the Democrats are? -none Jun 2016 #32

The people who have registered as democrats can ... AND... not vote in both primaries and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #42

I think this is just plain old vengeance pandr32 Jun 2016 #55

convention is going to be fun... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #3

Sanders has only minority representation on the committees. MineralMan Jun 2016 #4

How about Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #5

Is he even going to stay a Democrat?...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #9

No. He's running for Senate as and Independent. Squinch Jun 2016 #15

I see the rules on Superdelegates changing ... getting rid of them, probably not SFnomad Jun 2016 #10

Winding down presidential bid. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #12

Sanders has lost much of his bargaining position Gothmog Jun 2016 #13

+1 n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #24

Now, I wonder when he is going to start abolising those caucuses. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #25

so the guy who disdains the democrats for 74 years and becomes one for 10 minutes wants to boss msongs Jun 2016 #31

Why should fans of Reagan and George Bush get to help decide the Democratic Party's candidate? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #33

Who? zappaman Jun 2016 #34

I'm thinking, "no", too pandr32 Jun 2016 #53

Cool. bigwillq Jun 2016 #54

... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #56