2016 Postmortem

Chathamization

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28. It's already open, though. There's nothing stopping massive amounts of Republicans from registering

Sat Jun 18, 2016, 10:46 AM

Jun 2016

as Democrats. But we didn't see this in '04. And we didn't see tons of Democrats do this in '12. This whole thing reminds me of the people who are pushing voter ID laws, acting so concerned about a potential problem that there's little evidence of.

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Sanders Makes Push to Change Party Rules [View all] brooklynite Jun 2016 OP

The only open primaries I would support is DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #1

I still don't like it, what happens if one party has a Presumptive Nominee and the other doesn't? nt SFnomad Jun 2016 #6

The more you peer into it the more sense closed primaries make. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #7

Agree 100% n/t SFnomad Jun 2016 #8

Too much room for games...This isn't really a tough concept. DemocratSinceBirth Jun 2016 #11

States with open primaries don't seem to be suffering from many problems Chathamization Jun 2016 #19

Are you kidding? Conservatives came in Hortensis Jun 2016 #35

You are not in reality AgingAmerican Jun 2016 #43

Analysis of every open primary shows Hortensis Jun 2016 #47

Hortensis---Thank you! Well put. I agree with you. This seems to be more about BS's bitterness at skylucy Jun 2016 #58

Agreed and lets get rid of caucused Gothmog Jun 2016 #14

For once I agree with you. -none Jun 2016 #16

Democratic Primaries are for Democrats. The GE is open. nt onehandle Jun 2016 #2

The primaries are for the people to decide. -none Jun 2016 #17

Why should the Republicans decide who the Democratic candidate is or vice versa? JTFrog Jun 2016 #18

Fair and open voting is not mob rule. -none Jun 2016 #20

It is if you aren't willing to just do away with the parties altogether. n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #21

The purpose of the primaries is to select a leading candidate for the whole country. -none Jun 2016 #22

No, that is the purpose of the GE and it is completely open. JTFrog Jun 2016 #23

But the Democratic party preselected the candidate they wanted before the primaries even started. -none Jun 2016 #29

This is also false uponit7771 Jun 2016 #38

This is false uponit7771 Jun 2016 #37

Can you explain why you think it is false? -none Jun 2016 #39

Party primaries are for parties, not the nation uponit7771 Jun 2016 #41

This response doesn't address the question at hand, open primaries would allow for reThugs to uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36

That has never been a real problem with either party. -none Jun 2016 #44

Cause the primaries have been mostly closed .... and... no one wants to open the door for reThugs to uponit7771 Jun 2016 #45

There is plenty wrong with the way the Democratic primaries are run. -none Jun 2016 #57

True, nothings perfect... I don't know if the guy who lost is the best person to right the wrongs uponit7771 Jun 2016 #60

I agree! skylucy Jun 2016 #59

Closed primaries don't stop that. Chathamization Jun 2016 #26

In very small numbers as opposed to just opening it up to the opposition. n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #27

It's already open, though. There's nothing stopping massive amounts of Republicans from registering Chathamization Jun 2016 #28

Then they have to go through the process of registering and can't vote in both, that's the point uponit7771 Jun 2016 #40

They can't vote in both in open primary states, either. Chathamization Jun 2016 #46

They can and get caught later... IF there's a check on them. Either way, no need to make it easier uponit7771 Jun 2016 #48

Oh, yes. His WANTING open primaries Hortensis Jun 2016 #50

No, that would be voter fraud. This is like people pushing voter ID laws. Chathamization Jun 2016 #52

Conservative Democrats are just as much Hortensis Jun 2016 #49

I'm not talking about conservative Democrats, I'm talking about actual Republicans Chathamization Jun 2016 #51

the people...who are democrats decide in primaries. the people...who are not have the general nt msongs Jun 2016 #30

Who are to decide who the Democrats are? -none Jun 2016 #32

The people who have registered as democrats can ... AND... not vote in both primaries and uponit7771 Jun 2016 #42

I think this is just plain old vengeance pandr32 Jun 2016 #55

convention is going to be fun... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #3

Sanders has only minority representation on the committees. MineralMan Jun 2016 #4

How about Happyhippychick Jun 2016 #5

Is he even going to stay a Democrat?...nt SidDithers Jun 2016 #9

No. He's running for Senate as and Independent. Squinch Jun 2016 #15

I see the rules on Superdelegates changing ... getting rid of them, probably not SFnomad Jun 2016 #10

Winding down presidential bid. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #12

Sanders has lost much of his bargaining position Gothmog Jun 2016 #13

+1 n/t JTFrog Jun 2016 #24

Now, I wonder when he is going to start abolising those caucuses. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #25

so the guy who disdains the democrats for 74 years and becomes one for 10 minutes wants to boss msongs Jun 2016 #31

Why should fans of Reagan and George Bush get to help decide the Democratic Party's candidate? Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #33

Who? zappaman Jun 2016 #34

I'm thinking, "no", too pandr32 Jun 2016 #53

Cool. bigwillq Jun 2016 #54

... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #56