2016 Postmortem

peace13

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162. I simply replied so that you know there are rational people out there who are fed up.

Mon Jun 20, 2016, 09:56 AM

Jun 2016

It's OK whoever you voted for. No judgment. I will say that my concern is melting into disgust regarding the presumptive choices that we will have come November. Regarding burning the mofo down. Hill's choices in the ME will cause the Blow back here at home. Per the Orlando people trapped in the restroom with the shooter....his call to 911 included his appeal to the US to stop the action in Afghanistan. Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, who's next....Hill has helped to create the burning down you fear from Trump. Her name, her past, brings invokes anger toward the US. The chickens have come home to roost.

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Why I cannot vote for either Trump or Clinton. [View all] RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 OP

I wouldn't have been able to vote for Bernie Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #1

You say that but you state no reasons. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #3

I think it's apparent by now. NWCorona Jun 2016 #6

What is apparent? grossproffit Jun 2016 #17

Oh...there are plenty of reasons I wouldn't have been able to support him Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #7

So you didn't vote for Obama then either? update with numbers from 2008 insta8er Jun 2016 #12

Obama won a majority of pledged delegates Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #15

But he didn't win the popular vote, "the will of the people." insta8er Jun 2016 #20

Obama wasn't on the ballot in Michigan Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #26

I guess we have 2 different numbers... insta8er Jun 2016 #29

You're counting Michigan where he wasn't even on the ballot Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #30

Yes, he did, by any reasonable measure democrattotheend Jun 2016 #41

The result in 2008 was ambiguous beceause of Michigan and the caucuses. Zynx Jun 2016 #56

+1 itsrobert Jun 2016 #27

Please link to Obama calling for anything like that dsc Jun 2016 #19

I am not going to get into an argument about that. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #16

538 showed that Hillary would have won the large majority of delegates pnwmom Jun 2016 #59

link? NJCher Jun 2016 #105

Here's one. pnwmom Jun 2016 #106

thanks NJCher Jun 2016 #130

the main one being his call to have the superdelegates overturn the will of the people. DJ13 Jun 2016 #62

Stupid. But I assume you know it is stupid. nt Logical Jun 2016 #73

you forgot to say RazBerryBeret Jun 2016 #76

Good. You can't legitimately complain about Bernie or Bust sentiment then. Marr Jun 2016 #107

Okie dokie. Maybe we will see you after Hillary wins in November. leftofcool Jun 2016 #2

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #4

I met Jill Stein. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #9

Then there's slim pickings unfortunately. NWCorona Jun 2016 #10

We only hear about the Greens every 4 years in the presidential cycle brush Jun 2016 #50

The Greens tried for a long time to build from the bottom up dreamnightwind Jun 2016 #57

Third parties are just a black hole to pour resources in that would be better used in the primaries. w4rma Jun 2016 #151

Ok zappaman Jun 2016 #5

I get that you think that your vote doesn't matter because Clinton will win NY onenote Jun 2016 #8

and so? choie Jun 2016 #112

Heaven forbid someone say something nice about a former First Lady right after her death. qdouble Jun 2016 #11

I agree. It wasn't a lie. It was a simple mistake at a funeral. I think Hillary pnwmom Jun 2016 #60

I don't think it was a simple mistake. SheilaT Jun 2016 #85

If she meant to speak about Alzheimer's RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #100

I agree, that particular reason is quite unbelievable treestar Jun 2016 #160

So, you're going to sit by and let Trump win because Hillary said something dumb at a funeral? YouDig Jun 2016 #13

Do YOU understand that blood is thicker than politics? RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #18

I have no idea what that means. YouDig Jun 2016 #23

I'm very sorry about your brother. But Hillary had nothing to do with his death. pnwmom Jun 2016 #61

Sanders supporters aren't relevant or needed, TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #32

Ok MFM008 Jun 2016 #14

And you're telling us this because.....? Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #21

If you read the OP, you would know. n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #25

I read your goddamned OP Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #31

Free speech then. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #47

Thought free speech was dead here according to some stevil Jun 2016 #82

And I'm exercising "free speech" in my response Blue_Tires Jun 2016 #129

It's strange, but as the primaries are ending and DU is apparently going 1monster Jun 2016 #166

I care. 840high Jun 2016 #66

It's DU, and he's free to post. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #33

Thanks for the update. CorkySt.Clair Jun 2016 #22

In before the bell frazzled Jun 2016 #24

I like cheese. Squinch Jun 2016 #28

Sounds like someone resting comfortably on their white privilege Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #34

^^This^^ Yavin4 Jun 2016 #35

And shot. Nt Ohioblue22 Jun 2016 #38

What does that mean? TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #36

You don't know what white privilege means? HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #67

Um, no. That's why I asked. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #79

Don't know what it means? stevil Jun 2016 #83

Lol yourself. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #91

Cows came home alright stevil Jun 2016 #114

Still no answer, I see. TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #124

Found this definition off the internet: HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #88

Thank you TheCowsCameHome Jun 2016 #94

Wikipedia goes on to say: HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #96

I am assuming you have no animus GulfCoast66 Jun 2016 #113

No fucking shit! Dem2 Jun 2016 #43

+100 tallahasseedem Jun 2016 #51

What makes you say that? RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #99

If you understand what white privilege is, it's obvious what makes them say that. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #140

Yeah better to vote for someone who Deny and Shred Jun 2016 #122

FDR had a ton of money too. That means nothing. nt stevenleser Jun 2016 #141

Getting this in under the wire? mcar Jun 2016 #37

To quote Robert Reich One of the 99 Jun 2016 #39

"white guys" will suffer too under Trump, most all people will suffer AntiBank Jun 2016 #92

Some will but One of the 99 Jun 2016 #110

That's right - all of us who will not vote for Clinton choie Jun 2016 #115

Never said that. One of the 99 Jun 2016 #116

You are the one saying things choie Jun 2016 #120

Again never said One of the 99 Jun 2016 #125

Rocco, I wear my bans as an honor. saidsimplesimon Jun 2016 #40

Wow. Dem2 Jun 2016 #42

After Bills betrayal on don't ask don't tell, and the disaster that was Hillary care kcdoug1 Jun 2016 #44

Hillary-care was a more progressive plan than the ACA, but unfortunately pnwmom Jun 2016 #48

You're criticizing Hillary Clinton for trying to get universal healthcare passed? TwilightZone Jun 2016 #52

You were never voting Democratic anyway. We'll win without you redstateblues Jun 2016 #97

Hillary has apologized for her mistake. pnwmom Jun 2016 #45

Too late. You cannot unring the bell. n/t RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #101

I lost every fucking friend I had as a teenager to AIDS ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #46

... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #55

Working for down ballot candidates seems like a good move for you. kstewart33 Jun 2016 #49

Yawn LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #53

Please read this, RoccoR5955 PJMcK Jun 2016 #54

What though does it say Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #58

Damn. Didn't I say I am not voting for Trump? RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #103

Hey Rocco... choie Jun 2016 #117

Hey yourself. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #132

Dream on choie Jun 2016 #137

You go ahead and dream away. I've got work to do. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #139

You don't know anything about me.. choie Jun 2016 #142

Only by what you write. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #149

Sheesh! Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #131

Thanks you for that. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #65

You call that principles? HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #69

The poster lost his brother PJMcK Jun 2016 #70

Read the post again. HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #84

Consider that he might PJMcK Jun 2016 #86

Apparently we're not on the same side. HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #90

Jesus Christ choie Jun 2016 #118

So if I live in Texas Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #133

Your choice choie Jun 2016 #136

Cynical. Very cynical. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #138

What do you know about the progressive cause? choie Jun 2016 #144

Evidently, a lot more than you. Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #150

So the top thing you dislike about Trump is he is an oafish pick up artist? bettyellen Jun 2016 #63

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #64

adios...nt joeybee12 Jun 2016 #68

those who don't heaven05 Jun 2016 #71

Door, ass, you get it. nt Logical Jun 2016 #72

What she said on Nancy was wrong. What the Clintons did however was great. Amimnoch Jun 2016 #74

What the reality of what you do is... Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #75

Actually that's Clinton's legacy... choie Jun 2016 #119

Nope, polls show Democrats are uniting behind her faster than behind Obama in 2008 stevenleser Jun 2016 #143

They are getting behind voting against Trump choie Jun 2016 #146

If it makes you feel better to spin it that way, be my guest. Point is... stevenleser Jun 2016 #147

Do you have perfect memory? athena Jun 2016 #77

Oh well. Starry Messenger Jun 2016 #78

then sit at home on your ass.... chillfactor Jun 2016 #80

I didn't say I was sitting on my ass. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #98

Tick Tock Demsrule86 Jun 2016 #81

While Hillary and the president are addressing attacks on Muslim and LGBT Americans RandySF Jun 2016 #87

Aaaaa...pretty short sighted. peace13 Jun 2016 #128

In every election... jamese777 Jun 2016 #89

Thank you for your OP - I see you caught a lot of undeserved crap. Juicy_Bellows Jun 2016 #93

Frankly, who cares? Just vote for whoever you want book_worm Jun 2016 #95

Good for you eom rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #102

Larry Kramer and Dan Savage are supporting Hillary but, hey, what do they know about LGBT issues? Metric System Jun 2016 #104

This only helps the monster Trump and nothing more. RBInMaine Jun 2016 #108

I don't usually do this, but the stakes are way too high. Off to ignore you go! nt ecstatic Jun 2016 #109

foolish jcgoldie Jun 2016 #111

I really hope you will reconsider voting for Mrs. Clinton. This time it is not the akbacchus_BC Jun 2016 #121

I've been a supporter of Bernie's from his first day as Congressman from Vermont. Vinca Jun 2016 #123

+ 1 Jakes Progress Jun 2016 #134

I also believe that supporting my country is important. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #148

I have no idea what you're talking about, but I doubt Trump would be better for your family Vinca Jun 2016 #158

Of course you have no idea! RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #159

I assumed you were going to tell me whatever happened to your family that has altered your view. Vinca Jun 2016 #163

You should never assume things RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #164

I can't assume anything if I don't know what the heck you're talking about. Vinca Jun 2016 #165

In other words take your ball and go home? stonecutter357 Jun 2016 #126

It is your vote to use as you see fit. K&R Tierra_y_Libertad Jun 2016 #127

You're exactly half as bad as a Trump voter. Shame on you. N.T. Donald Ian Rankin Jun 2016 #135

Hope there was only a handful of people like you where it won't matter and your conscience is clear. Stellar Jun 2016 #145

Four in my family. peace13 Jun 2016 #153

Well, that's cool I guess, if some people prefer Trump and his policies over Hillary. Stellar Jun 2016 #161

I simply replied so that you know there are rational people out there who are fed up. peace13 Jun 2016 #162

Blaming Clinton for a reagan problem is your choice. The_Casual_Observer Jun 2016 #152

That is NOT what I am doing. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #156

Not to worry Zambero Jun 2016 #154

Don't care nt Buzz cook Jun 2016 #155

Fine Night Watchman Jun 2016 #157

You can voter for Clinton, you choose not to; thus, 'cannot' is simply self-serving rhetoric. LanternWaste Jun 2016 #167

And I suppose that you have a PhD in writing. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #168