2016 Postmortem

grossproffit

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14. First election?

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Mon Jun 20, 2016, 12:46 PM

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Democratic Popular Vote: Clinton: 15,805,136....Sanders: 12,029,699..............Clinton +3,775,437 [View all] Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 OP

A blowout Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #1

Exactly Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #6

So you are fine just not caring what 45% of the Dem block thinks is important? Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #11

Sanders only won 35% of Dems, not 45% TwilightZone Jun 2016 #15

OK. So I'll use round numbers to adjust my argument. Goblinmonger Jun 2016 #17

Most of his supporters have already indicated that they'll support Clinton. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #23

^^^^This^^^^ rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #42

You are fine with 55% being held hostage by 45%? Kind of like a filibuster? pnwmom Jun 2016 #33

What would you have? LoverOfLiberty Jun 2016 #47

What did Romney get in 2012? rock Jun 2016 #68

SOS? Red Mountain Jun 2016 #75

I'd say that indicates that Sanders and his supporters should Buzz cook Jun 2016 #66

The tally excludes a number of states. My vote isn't included in the tally. nm rhett o rick Jun 2016 #30

800,000 primary votes from Washington were also excluded. pnwmom Jun 2016 #34

The 3 million difference is a lie and being used here to taunt the Progressives when we rhett o rick Jun 2016 #37

The Bernie "win" in Washington State is a lie made by disregarding pnwmom Jun 2016 #39

How ironic that you would make that claim. My point is that the 3 million figure that is being used rhett o rick Jun 2016 #41

True but only because rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #43

i haven't bashed him. I'm bashing WA caucuses for not being representative. pnwmom Jun 2016 #45

I totally agree Andy823 Jun 2016 #67

it is telling that a Bernie fan calls quoting popular vote totals from RealClearPolitics 'bashing' Bill USA Jun 2016 #74

No, denying it is a lie. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #51

Scoreboard. nt LexVegas Jun 2016 #2

How many votes did she get in 2008? Exilednight Jun 2016 #3

Uh, votes received in 2008 are really of no relevance in 2016. Really. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #5

actually, they're a huge significance. it tells us how strong a candidate she is. Exilednight Jun 2016 #10

Fewer Democrats voted this year period. Every poll said that they expected Hillary to win. onehandle Jun 2016 #20

Strongest Democratic candidate in decades? We could run Exilednight Jun 2016 #24

What exactly are you complaining about? Is it that Hillary is going to win the general? brush Jun 2016 #31

Looks like a WIN to me! NurseJackie Jun 2016 #4

K&R mcar Jun 2016 #7

Not too encouraging for the GE for Clinton... I don't *think*. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #8

"Roughly 45% of Dem electorate voted AGAINST her" - incorrect, it was 64/35 among Dems. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #12

Mmmm. Point taken. I should have said "Dem PRIMARY electorate." Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #21

Not really. The recent polls generally have independents about 40/40/20. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #25

Right. Interesting speculation. But back to the original question: Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #48

Doesn't matter. They're not in the race. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #50

Independents have never lancer78 Jun 2016 #44

Indies will either vote Rep or Dem. Sheepshank Jun 2016 #65

First election? grossproffit Jun 2016 #14

Hardly. Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #16

Look at all the people who voted against Bernie. Imagine how badly he would have done, pnwmom Jun 2016 #35

Unfounded claim LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #49

55% of Repubs voted against Trump. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #55

In 2008 52% of people voted against Obama HarmonyRockets Jun 2016 #64

with your thinking, obama should lost in a landslide in 2008 as he only had 100,000 more votes beachbum bob Jun 2016 #80

I thank our candidates for giving us respectable choices for this primary. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #9

Hmmm.... No offense meant. (Really!) But was there anything ELSE about Reagan.... Smarmie Doofus Jun 2016 #13

There were lots of things that bothered me about Reagan, but outside the scope of this OP. aikoaiko Jun 2016 #18

Oh, my. Somebody's narrative just got dinged Vogon_Glory Jun 2016 #19

Glad it was her. Can't wait to put more dems in to help her too! ffr Jun 2016 #22

No big difference between Sanders and Clinton Johnny2X2X Jun 2016 #26

If there was no difference why was there such a bitter primary battle? The two candidates rhett o rick Jun 2016 #28

Primaries are always hard fought jamese777 Jun 2016 #57

Oh there's one big difference rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #46

Some Hillary supporters have blinders on one brick thick! peace13 Jun 2016 #54

I thought we were done with primary OP's starting today. Why is this necessary? rhett o rick Jun 2016 #27

I think they are still working on the change over. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #29

LOL. Trying to squeeze in a last minute shot at the Progressives here. Good Grief. nm rhett o rick Jun 2016 #32

Exactly. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #36

Posting the popular vote totals from the primary is a vile attack? Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #38

No, not at all. Else You Are Mad Jun 2016 #40

Updated Numbers jamese777 Jun 2016 #52

I guess that caucuses count as popular votes. RoccoR5955 Jun 2016 #53

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #56

No, it just means LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #59

If Sanders supporters want to forward the narrative that there was nothing redeeming about.. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #62

I haven't read down this thread, but for those who may say that the caucuses.... George II Jun 2016 #58

Probably significantly less than 700,000. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #60

Yes, it's really a lot closer to zero but I was being on the safe side..... George II Jun 2016 #61

A mandate, one might say Sheepshank Jun 2016 #63

The platform is about US..... Red Mountain Jun 2016 #76

Are we running for office on the platform? jamese777 Jun 2016 #85

I'm sorry.....did I misunderstand Skinner's post about civility? tibbir Jun 2016 #69

What do you mean? nt Cali_Democrat Jun 2016 #71

Look at the time on the OP ... it was BEFORE the changeover SFnomad Jun 2016 #73

So much for unity Lazy Daisy Jun 2016 #70

This OP was posted BEFORE the changeover SFnomad Jun 2016 #72

Good showing by Sanders (nt) Jon Ace Jun 2016 #77

She whupped him. She whupped him good. And the entire world knows it. Number23 Jun 2016 #78

Wrong numbers are unhelpful information. Ash_F Jun 2016 #79

Feel free to provide the "correct" numbers. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #81

We will never know the correct numbers due to our ridiculous system. Ash_F Jun 2016 #82

Yep, the primaries are OVER.. with HIllary Clinton as the WINNER! Cha Jun 2016 #83

Too bad Sander's collect voted from all sides of the aisle 4dsc Jun 2016 #84

The Good News jamese777 Jun 2016 #86