2016 Postmortem

Dustlawyer

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35. The only reason we spend so much on the military is that the Defense Contractors want more

Fri Jun 24, 2016, 07:35 AM

Jun 2016

of our tax dollars. They pay the politicians to vote for more and more military spending when probably half of the Pentagon's budget can be classified as waste, fraud and abuse!

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Brexit is not good news for Hillary. She had better [View all] rateyes Jun 2016 OP

Great Britain just trashed its own economy for the foreseeable future. randome Jun 2016 #1

What cooperation? When did the Austerity people compromise with anybody? Fuck them. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #2

An intertwined economy is generally a peaceful one. randome Jun 2016 #6

Right, change the subject. bemildred Jun 2016 #8

This is one of the most peaceful eras in modern times. randome Jun 2016 #12

Then why must we spend all that money on it? bemildred Jun 2016 #20

Yes, that's the theory that most of us dispute. randome Jun 2016 #26

Right, a bunch of hand-waving dressed up with factoids. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #29

^^^This!^^^ Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #68

The only reason we spend so much on the military is that the Defense Contractors want more Dustlawyer Jun 2016 #35

There are more displaced refuges now than ever before. lastone Jun 2016 #105

We're not responsible for Syria's civil war. We are responsible for Iraq and related atrocities. randome Jun 2016 #117

The destabilization we've created in the middle east has --- lastone Jun 2016 #142

Excellent posts--both this one and the one above... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #13

Is it the absence of true leaders on both continents that let things like this happen? randome Jun 2016 #17

Yes, it is. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #24

The ambitious jackass was willing to gamble it all just Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #34

Is it possible Great Britain will rejoin once they see how bad things have become? randome Jun 2016 #74

I've heard theories that there may have to be a second referendum Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #78

An interwine economy is NOT generally peaceful fasttense Jun 2016 #80

Right. Make war, not trade. That's a well-known saying. Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #85

Yes, and doctors use to tell you smoking was good for your lungs. fasttense Jun 2016 #101

I'm a dual-national residing in Europe. I and my friends feel directly impacted by this Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #103

I'm sorry you and your friends lost the vote. fasttense Jun 2016 #108

I did NOT lose the vote, as I had no vote to lose... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #114

Don't berate me because you could NOT vote. It was NOT my fault fasttense Jun 2016 #119

Codswallop..."The reason the crazy right wing is able to con so many into hating so few Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #106

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Correlation does not imply causation. For your point to be proven, you would have to stevenleser Jun 2016 #87

That is almost impossible to in the social sciences because you can not account for every variable fasttense Jun 2016 #107

The EU didn't impose austerity on the UK. Britain imposed it on themselves. DanTex Jun 2016 #28

Right, and the UK just un-imposed it on itself. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #30

The austerity has nothing to do with being in the EU or not. DanTex Jun 2016 #36

No connection at all. Good to know. Completely unrelated. Got it. nt bemildred Jun 2016 #38

Yes, that is a good thing to know. Being informed is good. DanTex Jun 2016 #39

Do you seriously believe that Boris "the Trump" Johnson will dismantle Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #40

Huh? How does unilaterally wiping 100 billion from pensions... joshcryer Jun 2016 #42

So all those protests in the street by college kids was my imagination? n/t fasttense Jun 2016 #109

There have been a lot of protests of a lot of things. DanTex Jun 2016 #124

Well that's true fasttense Jun 2016 #128

EU had nothing to do with the UK austerity. They didn't "make sure" of anything. DanTex Jun 2016 #129

Most Americans don't care about European politics Renew Deal Jun 2016 #3

Most Americans are ignorant of American politics (n/t) PJMcK Jun 2016 #4

Trump obliterated the GOP field. Sanders shocked Dems. Barack_America Jun 2016 #18

Who's talking about Sanders supporters? Renew Deal Jun 2016 #25

Sorry but please change your POV... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2016 #63

Oh I see, no interest in dissuading people from voting Trump Mr Maru Jun 2016 #89

Please sir... N_E_1 for Tennis Jun 2016 #98

You're trying to use "fringe" as an insult and in so doing arte missing the reality Scootaloo Jun 2016 #115

We actually have large populist movements here, Hortensis Jun 2016 #19

+1000 ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #45

Thank you for this post. Why I think it's a rateyes Jun 2016 #46

Good point. We're in power, so we get the blame for Hortensis Jun 2016 #88

Maybe if Trump wasn't a fraudulent university scammer, a fraudulent steak seller, . . . brush Jun 2016 #84

Well, mostly I agree. Except that most people Hortensis Jun 2016 #91

If 22% of Bernie supporters say they will for the ultimate non-progressive, they are either RBInMaine Jun 2016 #5

Anyone who votes for Trump is neither liberal or progressive. Your assessment is right on RB still_one Jun 2016 #10

+1000! DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #22

Angry and ignorant is right. Yet, they vote and rateyes Jun 2016 #23

And you're going to lose a chunk of the other half because of Brexit. TwilightZone Jun 2016 #64

Yep. And those who caused the first loss rateyes Jun 2016 #66

No, their number really isn't legion. Lord Magus Jun 2016 #123

Yup La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2016 #50

Evidence of this stat: "22% of Sanders voters say they will vote for Trump"? FSogol Jun 2016 #7

Agreed. No real Sanders supporter would vote for Trump still_one Jun 2016 #11

"Nearly Half of Sanders Supporters Won't Support Clinton" baldguy Jun 2016 #15

The poll is what it is, but I don't buy it. For one thing it is a National Poll, taken right after still_one Jun 2016 #44

"Over four in 10 Sanders voters in West Virginia would vote for Trump" baldguy Jun 2016 #55

They were Trump supporters to begin with, okasha Jun 2016 #97

I don't buy that. Ilsa Jun 2016 #51

The PUMAs were higher in number. It turned out fine realmirage Jun 2016 #118

Here you go: rateyes Jun 2016 #14

Here's their methodology and questions FSogol Jun 2016 #21

I read the poll and see that there is some pretty rateyes Jun 2016 #31

The censorship squad is on active duty today. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #93

Yep. rateyes Jun 2016 #125

I pretend people who disagree with me are part of the mythical 'censorship squad' as well LanternWaste Jun 2016 #127

The mythical "censorship squad" that pulled me into jury service on that guy's post. No so mythical. TheBlackAdder Jun 2016 #137

I appealed and won! The post is back. rateyes Jun 2016 #140

Britain just fucked the world liberal N proud Jun 2016 #9

No, they just BlueMTexpat Jun 2016 #95

lol Hiraeth Jun 2016 #116

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She better Her Sister Jun 2016 #27

What's this "she had better" shit? DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #32

Yes, imo, she better... rateyes Jun 2016 #33

Yeah I love when people speak like that! You better. She better! Her Sister Jun 2016 #41

Glad you love the tone. Too bad rateyes Jun 2016 #48

You do know what Brexit will do to GB economy right? leftofcool Jun 2016 #56

I saw that the Trump Bunch won that referendum rateyes Jun 2016 #57

Hillary is obviously doing just fine. leftofcool Jun 2016 #52

Trump is embracing Brexit, you're kidding me. joshcryer Jun 2016 #37

brexit is a Nationalism anti-immigrant vote....equates to our teaparty beachbum bob Jun 2016 #43

What's next? A national vote to determine safety regulations in mines? randome Jun 2016 #47

Actually, it is good news for Hillary. JaneyVee Jun 2016 #49

Good lesson for the American public maybe? workinclasszero Jun 2016 #54

Agree...they can observe an actual case study, but in miniature, of what a Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #73

You think she hasn't been talking about those things? ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #53

Thanks Hillary Kennah Jun 2016 #58

Yawn, the same old "people are going to vote Trump bc ESTABLISHMENT" forjusticethunders Jun 2016 #59

Well said... Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #75

YES SIR! riversedge Jun 2016 #60

I don't think you really grasp the subject matter. Tarc Jun 2016 #61

Based on the OP and some other comments here on DU this past few hours, it seems riversedge Jun 2016 #90

Excellent point: Surya Gayatri Jun 2016 #111

I agree that Brexit is not good news for Hillary. Skinner Jun 2016 #62

^this^ rateyes Jun 2016 #65

thats alot of people swhisper1 Jun 2016 #67

Isolation, nationalism and nativism are not real alternatives. Adrahil Jun 2016 #70

I completely agree with you. Skinner Jun 2016 #71

I agree.. I just don't know what that is.... Adrahil Jun 2016 #72

You "don't know what that is"? Sanders's entire campaign is about what it is. w4rma Jun 2016 #126

I disagreed with his proposed solutions. Adrahil Jun 2016 #133

Agreed. Fortunately I think she is going to have a lot of help. stevenleser Jun 2016 #81

Getting out of the EU was about getting out of the experiment of free trade neoliberal economics fasttense Jun 2016 #83

I doubt 99% of those voting know anything about neoliberal economics. This was about stevenleser Jun 2016 #86

You know the arguments I keep hearing about the EU vote fasttense Jun 2016 #110

Of course we can opt out. (nt) Skinner Jun 2016 #113

How? N/T fasttense Jun 2016 #132

Both the congress and the President have the power to do this stevenleser Jun 2016 #138

Sadly, it appears that people who felt screwed by the global economy voted to screw themselves. Agnosticsherbet Jun 2016 #102

She need not over react. That would be a big mistake also. And to those who think the status quo glennward Jun 2016 #69

Markets sliding all over the world...and Trump publically said he would have chosen to leave the EU Sheepshank Jun 2016 #76

Snark noted. You are rateyes Jun 2016 #77

It's the Independent voting block that is mostly in play for Hillary ALBliberal Jun 2016 #79

And in an article on MSM news, seems she just had another libdem4life Jun 2016 #82

She had a meeting with "unamed corporae CEOs? Oh, noes! lunamagica Jun 2016 #121

I'd beg to differ on Brexit; ericson00 Jun 2016 #92

This will pass. timlot Jun 2016 #94

if any sabbat hunter Jun 2016 #96

She was right. I don't see how that hurts her. liberalnarb Jun 2016 #99

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No talk of austerity in the US. except by some in the GOP. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #104

Trumpism works in the UK because it has the demographics and political system for it. SaschaHM Jun 2016 #112

Well said! n/t DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #120

She has been talking about jobs, jobs, higher wages okasha Jun 2016 #122

When John Major won the 1992 UK election RandySF Jun 2016 #130

I'm right with you! Thanks for the post floppyboo Jun 2016 #134

No good news for Hillary? This is not about Hillary. Beacool Jun 2016 #135

indeed. it will NOT T be a cakewalk, even if RUMP is a troll. trolls are kinda popular to the pansypoo53219 Jun 2016 #136

Your concern is noted NastyRiffraff Jun 2016 #139

Your lack of it is noted. rateyes Jun 2016 #141