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athena

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10. I find it very interesting
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 06:02 PM
Jun 2016

(and a little depressing) that people are so uncomfortable with the idea of a male First Spouse being just a First Spouse. It's pretty outrageous to suggest that the position of First Spouse be upgraded to Second-Vice-President when the First Spouse happens to be male.

For some reason, when the First Spouse is female, regardless of her level of education, career background and accomplishments, people assume that she has zero say in what happens and no influence whatsoever on her husband. People seem to think that the President doesn't even talk to his wife about the things he's working on and thinking about. (I wonder if this says something about how some men still treat their wives in the twenty-first century.)

Well, to those people, I can only say that Bill Clinton, when he is First Spouse, will be a traditional First Spouse. Hillary will listen to Bill as much as Barack listens to Michelle. Bill will have as much influence on the governing of the country as Michelle does now. To think anything else is not only sexist but also dangerous: the First Spouse is not an elected office and must therefore be a position that comes with very limited power. Fortunately, Bill is smart enough to understand this, and feminist enough to respect that his wife, not he, will be the one who is President.

I thought Bill is going to be the first lady? Travis_0004 Jun 2016 #1
The 1st Dude! 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #3
+1. He'll be good at back-room influence. Hortensis Jun 2016 #9
The 1st Gentleman! zenabby Jun 2016 #15
Nobody calls him Lebowski The Second Stone Jun 2016 #20
I suspect Chelsea may take up those duties exboyfil Jun 2016 #7
That seems a little sexist. Nye Bevan Jun 2016 #14
That's terribly sexist zenabby Jun 2016 #16
Good point. athena Jun 2016 #22
No ... She will have one VP, and then ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #2
Yes. Thank you. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #47
I wonder if people would even consider mouthing that narrative, if the positions were reversed ... 1StrongBlackMan Jun 2016 #49
I imagine all presidents have had their spouse as an advisor. MyNameGoesHere Jun 2016 #4
Clinton/Warren 2016 JaneyVee Jun 2016 #5
Anyone who is "threatened" by two women on the ticket... thesquanderer Jun 2016 #6
Why, oh why does any sane person want Warren to give up her Senate seat? longship Jun 2016 #8
Thank you! okasha Jun 2016 #11
Because Presidents do not always live out their terms The Second Stone Jun 2016 #21
I cannot support her as VEEP. nt longship Jun 2016 #38
Actually she is too junior to get either 4 or 5 karynnj Jun 2016 #24
Now, maybe. But not if she is allowed to stay in the senate. nt longship Jun 2016 #39
I assume she will run in 2018, but even as a second term karynnj Jun 2016 #45
I agree - Warren is too important right where she is to be pulled into VP. Lil Missy Jun 2016 #41
I find it very interesting athena Jun 2016 #10
It's because Bill is a former POTUS Txbluedog Jun 2016 #12
I wouldn't be so sure about that. athena Jun 2016 #13
While I agree with you that Bill needs to be a traditional first spouse.... Txbluedog Jun 2016 #25
I also think it is because he is Bill Clinton karynnj Jun 2016 #46
Hillary had a larger role than the traditional one as 1st Lady bigbrother05 Jun 2016 #52
Thank you zenabby Jun 2016 #17
You mean like "Bubba, the First Dude" or... "Big Dawg, the First Dude"? cherokeeprogressive Jun 2016 #23
Hasn't Hillary said she'd put Bill in charge of the economy? sueh Jun 2016 #29
No, she has not. athena Jun 2016 #43
Bill will re-conceptualize the role... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #18
Wishful thinking. athena Jun 2016 #19
it's not wishful thinking... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #26
Why? athena Jun 2016 #27
Hillary wants to put him in charge 840high Jun 2016 #28
That is false. athena Jun 2016 #42
Like Hillary was "only" First Spouse? Remember her lead on Clinton Health Care 1993? . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2016 #40
He certainly wouldn't be the first one to redefine the role. nolawarlock Jun 2016 #31
good, bad or otherwise... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #32
"Intellectual dishonesty"? athena Jun 2016 #44
facts and evidence... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #53
I think he'll lay off. sofa king Jun 2016 #33
agree to disagree... HumanityExperiment Jun 2016 #34
I'll do more than that! sofa king Jun 2016 #35
I hope he let's her have the Oval Office. peace13 Jun 2016 #37
Yeah, think of how stupid would it be to make good use of a spouse who was President /s (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #30
Why? My husband is not my co-worker. Beausoir Jun 2016 #36
If your spouse ran a successful business and then you sought to open that same business... Tommy_Carcetti Jun 2016 #50
His role will be determined by his wife and could be left undefined karynnj Jun 2016 #48
no. The only thing that Bill Clinton will serve is as "first person". As with any spouse, they still_one Jun 2016 #51
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