2016 Postmortem

NurseJackie

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15. Because fomenting discontent is such a winning strategy, eh?

Thu Jun 30, 2016, 10:19 AM

Jun 2016

I question the wisdom of trashing the party and our nominee in order to accommodate the naivete and assuage the feelings of the lowest common denominator.

Don't congratulate your opponent, and don't admit defeat. No winners, no losers. It's the "here's-your-participation-trophy" mentality. Bernie's doing nobody any favors.

I get what you're saying, I just disagree with it.

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Sanders is making his long goodbye count - By E.J. Dionne Jr. [View all] DonViejo Jun 2016 OP

I'm not sure if "making it count" is how I'd describe it. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #2

People who were irritated with him months ago are irritated with him now. What's nuts is that some Chathamization Jun 2016 #3

Wrong. It's not about making Hillary supporters "happy". (How silly.) Instead ... NurseJackie Jun 2016 #4

His strategy is working. People on both sides admit that Sanders voters are largely migrating to Chathamization Jun 2016 #6

He gets exactly zero credit for that. They're migrating to Clinton because she's a better option geek tragedy Jun 2016 #8

Funny, people were saying it would be his fault if they didn't do that. I suppose he only gets Chathamization Jun 2016 #9

he's not actively interfering with them moving over to her to oppose Trump. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #11

Sanders _might_ have a better idea about how to convince Sanders supporters than the people who have Chathamization Jun 2016 #12

Sanders hasn't said Clinton is much better than Trump in several weeks, if not months geek tragedy Jun 2016 #13

He just said last week that he will be voting for Clinton... and that Trump is worse... GeorgiaPeanuts Jun 2016 #22

Post removed Post removed Jun 2016 #23

Again, you're not the target audience. Sanders has said he would vote for Clinton, that his focus is Chathamization Jun 2016 #28

again, Sanders supporters aren't migrating because of anything Sanders is saying. geek tragedy Jun 2016 #30

You're assuming that you know Sanders supporters better than they know themselves Chathamization Jun 2016 #32

I think you're underestimating the importance of Bernie working on the platform and how that helps aikoaiko Jun 2016 #35

Bernie Sanders is keeping young people involved with his long goodbye Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #10

Because fomenting discontent is such a winning strategy, eh? NurseJackie Jun 2016 #15

People who voted for Sanders were already discontented. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #21

Our first priority is helping Hillary to defeat the GOP and Trump. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #27

Bernie Sanders' stump speech criticized Trump for bigotry. Eric J in MN Jun 2016 #31

Bah humbug, this isn't a sports game FFS!!!! GeorgiaPeanuts Jun 2016 #24

Oh look, more hypersensitivity. NurseJackie Jun 2016 #26

Wrong... GeorgiaPeanuts Jun 2016 #29

This message was self-deleted by its author NurseJackie Jul 2016 #40

We gave him political capital, and he is spending it on our behalf. Orsino Jun 2016 #5

What political capital does Sanders have now? Sanders supporter flocking to Clinton in faster uponit7771 Jun 2016 #17

I don't see your point at all SheenaR Jun 2016 #18

Point being Sanders statistically has no holdout voters and his progressive bonafides is replaced by uponit7771 Jun 2016 #19

Warren is having her moment SheenaR Jun 2016 #25

No he doesn't.... There are only 8% hold outs left 1/4 the number Obama had uponit7771 Jun 2016 #33

You and I are talking about different things SheenaR Jun 2016 #34

To late for him to claim 3rd party for national elections, no... he has no leverage but he did weeks uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36

Agree to disagree SheenaR Jun 2016 #39

Looking forward to the goodbye part. n/t seaglass Jun 2016 #7

I see the hardline Bernie Bashers are still bashing Bernie instead of discussing what Dionne has to Bluenorthwest Jun 2016 #14

Sanders supporters flocking to Hillary faster than Hillary supporters flocked to Obama, Warren is on uponit7771 Jun 2016 #16

I have to disagree; he's pretty much lost all relevance at this point LongtimeAZDem Jun 2016 #20

At this point, I don't think he has ANY DemonGoddess Jun 2016 #38

"long goodbye" SaschaHM Jun 2016 #37