2016 Postmortem

uponit7771

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15. Dogmatic isn't progressive, there's a reason why we do trade and not isolate ourselves

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What are 3 things that would make any trade agreement acceptable to those opposing TPP? [View all] uponit7771 Jul 2016 OP

Why are so many democrats carrying water for free trade now?? hollowdweller Jul 2016 #1

So the question was Andy823 Jul 2016 #3

You noticed the same thing I am seeing FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #4

This. n/t ms liberty Jul 2016 #6

We are all one happy family now PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #7

"we" didnt prop wall street that's a wingerish meme "we" are sick of people spouting wingerish memes uponit7771 Jul 2016 #16

QE1, QE2, QE3, QE4, ect ect ect Ring a Fucking Bell FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #47

.that^ 840high Jul 2016 #53

Dogmatic isn't progressive, there's a reason why we do trade and not isolate ourselves uponit7771 Jul 2016 #15

And yet we do major trade boycotts such as the sanctions against South Africa Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #66

Since when were Democrats about protectionism? Lord Magus Jul 2016 #55

The OP referred to "trade agreements" not "free trade." How would the US pnwmom Jul 2016 #62

Making it really easy to undo would be a start. bemildred Jul 2016 #2

Easy to leave and NOT keep the benefits of the trade agreements? tia... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #17

Of course. "No coercion". That would apply to all participants. nt bemildred Jul 2016 #18

So pretty much Brexit would lower the current GDP of Britain right now seeing they just voted to... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #22

AFL-CIO: "Ten Critical Problems with the Trans-Pacific Partnership" think Jul 2016 #5

These are 5 reasons to be against the TPP. Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #10

thanks for posting FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #13

This reads whats not to like in TPP, I'm asking for 3 things every trade agreement has to have to... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #19

These are 10 things that should be considered in EVERY trade agreement. think Jul 2016 #25

First off, why is it always from our/USA perspective? What about poor counties who we have not Hoyt Jul 2016 #31

Why should it be the perspective of over 500 US corporate lobbyists & executives? think Jul 2016 #32

I believe many here, view foreign workers as competition, little more than scabs. The hatred shows. Hoyt Jul 2016 #33

Trump supporters might have a disgusting opinion like that but Democrats & Unions want FAIR trade think Jul 2016 #34

How would the USTR address foreign murders? I agree it's revolting, but are we supposed to bomb Hoyt Jul 2016 #35

Bomb them? Good grief. Can we be realistic here and not engage is sensationalization? think Jul 2016 #37

Unions want to restrict competition for their members, and I understand that. Hoyt Jul 2016 #39

You're the only one HERE who keeps calling workers in other countries scabs. think Jul 2016 #44

They are considered scabs when people complain that they will work for less, even if no one Hoyt Jul 2016 #45

Weeping crocodile tears about "the poor" Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2016 #58

Let's assume that's true for a moment, better than not caring about other Hoyt Jul 2016 #59

Because NAFTA has been so good for Mexico? Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2016 #63

Farmers making 50 cents a day are getting jobs at higher pay, some much higher $8/hour at Audi, etc. Hoyt Jul 2016 #64

What if these problems were fixed before anyone attempted to pass this? DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #48

AFL-CIO: "Labor's So-Called "Seat at the Table" at TPP Negotiations" think Jul 2016 #49

Froman has many, many more years as a government official. Unions' position has been clear, no Hoyt Jul 2016 #60

Lots of small businesses and international businesses in FL are in favor of TPP... Sancho Jul 2016 #8

How about Big Pharma's manipulation of Drug Prices FreakinDJ Jul 2016 #12

The TPP won't stop manipulation of drug prices... Sancho Jul 2016 #14

There is only one good reason for a trade deal, RDANGELO Jul 2016 #9

America doesn't have all the resources to everything, the notion that we do is false and I agree.... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #20

My list katsy Jul 2016 #11

Thx for your responce. on 1 what would a country or corp do if they law of the land is lax like the uponit7771 Jul 2016 #21

On 1: i think that resolution remains in the political arena katsy Jul 2016 #30

Not having it written by Lobbyists, All Pacific Rim including China--Right now China benefits most! TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #23

Enforceable commitments to labor, environmental and regulatory standards. pampango Jul 2016 #24

I agree, our CURRENT displacement laws suck and aren't enforced at all.. corps are ALLOWED to... uponit7771 Jul 2016 #26

I've heard both that labor and environmental standards not enforced well enough, pampango Jul 2016 #27

Pretty much this forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #38

+1 uponit7771 Jul 2016 #41

There are no "three things." PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #28

So displacement laws strengthed sounds like its at the top of most people's list. Our displacement uponit7771 Jul 2016 #40

I think I agree with this assessment. PowerToThePeople Jul 2016 #42

1. That nation that has the highest human and environmental standards shall dictate all conditions. Alex4Martinez Jul 2016 #29

Since our labor standards are so low, we'll only be "dictating" conditions with Third World pampango Jul 2016 #46

Fair trade AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #36

My 3 things: Amimnoch Jul 2016 #43

I only have one... JSup Jul 2016 #50

I agree, up thread some talked about displacement laws being too lax. If they displacement laws were uponit7771 Jul 2016 #51

I don't care to legitimize nor empower governments that abuse and oppress minority populations. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #52

Neither do I. 840high Jul 2016 #54

uponit7771—None. And that is also my answer to the issue of fracking. CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #56

Judicial power of the states involved in disputes should not be diminished The Second Stone Jul 2016 #57

It's too late ibegurpard Jul 2016 #61

Whatever they may be, I can bet they would be 3 things that would imbalance the deal so much as to BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #65