2016 Postmortem

MineralMan

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7. I'm not sure that's true, really.

Fri Jul 8, 2016, 09:22 AM

Jul 2016

She's helping Hillary right now with her statements. Truly, I think the party will be united, regardless. There may be a few holdouts, but I'm not sure they were with the party in the first place, and probably wouldn't have been, whoever the nominees were.

But I think the holdouts are too few to matter, really.

I'd love to see Warren on the ticket, but I suspect Clinton will do a gender-balance thing with her choice. We have no idea what a two-woman ticket would do with voters, really. It shouldn't matter, but it might.

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Clinton Narrows Her VP Short List [View all] DonViejo Jul 2016 OP

If true, pick a Tom, leave the senate in tact and build. morningfog Jul 2016 #1

Don't understand why he's not on that list. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #2

To be fair, I take this list with a grain of salt. morningfog Jul 2016 #4

I know this is petty, but Perez is just not physically attractive. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #5

and Trump and Christie and Newt are poster models?? AntiBank Jul 2016 #54

Of course not! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #59

Tom Perez has an attractive personality, with a ton of Hortensis Jul 2016 #69

Ok, guess I need to get to know him better. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #70

Interesting response. I'd like a chance to see Hortensis Jul 2016 #71

He's sounding better and better! Thanks for your input! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #72

Lol. I don't want to elevate appearance, but Hortensis Jul 2016 #76

We'll have to stay tuned. It will definitely be interesting! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #80

I laugh every time I think of it. Can only hope. Hortensis Jul 2016 #81

Rump wants to start his own tabloid tv station. Newt is the perfect co-host for that clown! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #89

A very attractive one, I suspect, although I also Hortensis Jul 2016 #90

Really? I think he's kinda sexy! floppyboo Jul 2016 #123

Not only petty, but completely out of line Matt_in_STL Jul 2016 #56

Tom Perez looks very normal IronLionZion Jul 2016 #66

A good list other than Perez Yupster Jul 2016 #109

Hey Night Watchman Jul 2016 #115

He is awesome. iandhr Jul 2016 #27

They would learn fast! I don't think that's a huge issue for the VP. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #37

But they would quickly learn who he is. And I think they would like what they learn. StevieM Jul 2016 #38

Agreed. I think Becerra is fantastic and I wish she would pick him. (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #35

as long as its not Tom Vilsack or Tom Perez rurallib Jul 2016 #21

I don't think any of the 5 on that list are good picks. morningfog Jul 2016 #23

I agree that that group does not excite me rurallib Jul 2016 #24

Count me in the Becerra column. Metric System Jul 2016 #106

I was also thinking Becerra. I am surprised that he didn't make the final cut. StevieM Jul 2016 #34

I agree with you on Becerra. I heard him being interviewed recently pnwmom Jul 2016 #92

Experienced, intelligent, wouldn't cause any seat losses and would morningfog Jul 2016 #93

I really like him hollowdweller Jul 2016 #125

To unify the party, it has to be Warren Kelvin Mace Jul 2016 #3

I'm not sure that's true, really. MineralMan Jul 2016 #7

I don't think that's true, but it should be Warren. musicblind Jul 2016 #146

Vilsack would be terrible. Renew Deal Jul 2016 #6

Ohio needs Sherrod Brown to stay in the Senate rbrnmw Jul 2016 #104

Vilsack would be a good choice. HassleCat Jul 2016 #8

Vilsack is from Iowa, not Ohio. DonViejo Jul 2016 #11

Oh, that's right. Blows my theory. HassleCat Jul 2016 #14

Kaine's pro-life... DonViejo Jul 2016 #16

I think it's important to phrase this correctly leftynyc Jul 2016 #18

True. I stand corrected. Thanks! DonViejo Jul 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #55

My heart wants Warren leftynyc Jul 2016 #61

In Tim Kaine's case, it's potentially too much of a distinction without merit. Chan790 Jul 2016 #96

Very good considerations Chan790. nt floppyboo Jul 2016 #124

A problem that might not be a problem. HassleCat Jul 2016 #22

You're posting unsubstantiated nonsense Renew Deal Jul 2016 #26

OK. Substantiate Clinton's position. HassleCat Jul 2016 #28

How about proving your claim Renew Deal Jul 2016 #36

Here's an example. HassleCat Jul 2016 #51

Article undercuts every specious claim you've made. End of Hyde Amendment is a great thing. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #57

We see what we want to see HassleCat Jul 2016 #65

Sorry, I'll continue to call false smears when I see them. Willful misinterpretation emulatorloo Jul 2016 #67

HRC wants exceptions for late-term Hortensis Jul 2016 #105

Unmitigated bullshit as to HRC's position on Reproductive Freedom emulatorloo Jul 2016 #50

I would be more credible? HassleCat Jul 2016 #58

You just posted an article 'supporting' your specious claims that totally undercut your claims emulatorloo Jul 2016 #62

He is similar to a lot of catholic Dems. iandhr Jul 2016 #84

Iowa is also a swing state. (eom) StevieM Jul 2016 #39

Vilsack and Kaine are boring. emulatorloo Jul 2016 #44

Brown would be the case to be made for Ohio still_one Jul 2016 #52

Maybe blows 2 of your theories SharonClark Jul 2016 #64

Unfortunately, words have meanings. Chan790 Jul 2016 #98

I woulf sure hate to lose Sherrod Brown, my Senator Cirque du So-What Jul 2016 #9

I hope this isn't her final short-list. None of the names will do her much good. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #10

The wuestion is why does it have to be someone in the Senate bigdarryl Jul 2016 #15

Tradition? But I believe we'd bucked "tradition" when we elected the first African-American BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #32

"None of the names will do her much good." Oh, really?... DonViejo Jul 2016 #17

EW is in the Senate, is Senator of MA, and MA has a Repub Gov. Same things for Sherrod Brown. BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #29

I'm very aware of what state Warren represents,.... DonViejo Jul 2016 #40

I will support whomever Hillary Clinton chooses. I can't afford not to. But my hope and dream is BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #47

her replacement is a bit more complicated than that. Exilednight Jul 2016 #147

If Warren is Clinton's VP, Harry Reid has a plan to replace her (but not the other Senators) w4rma Jul 2016 #130

Vilsack? geek tragedy Jul 2016 #12

Ha Evergreen Emerald Jul 2016 #13

Yeah. Got a chill when I read that name, too. eom BlueCaliDem Jul 2016 #30

The United States of Monsanto Armstead Jul 2016 #19

No Castro, eh? Arkana Jul 2016 #25

I would love Warren! mblock Jul 2016 #31

I am surprised that Becerra didn't make the final cut. I really thought that she might pick him. StevieM Jul 2016 #41

Why Tom Vilsack? NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #33

Two reasons. First, he is from Iowa, which is a swing state. StevieM Jul 2016 #42

He may just seem like a really nice guy, but he's also very intelligent Rhiannon12866 Jul 2016 #114

Maybe some people just enjoy saying "Vilsack" Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #143

Tim Kaine seems like the best choice drray23 Jul 2016 #43

I think Gov. Mark Dayton MN. would gain her some liberal favor. nt Snotcicles Jul 2016 #45

Dayton has health problems. Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #46

I wish Sen. Franken were on the list. But then, CNN may not have the right info. spooky3 Jul 2016 #97

The Wow Factor Dictates bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #48

I think you have something there DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #63

Both parties do this dance bucolic_frolic Jul 2016 #94

Becerra would be a good choice. gademocrat7 Jul 2016 #49

I hope it's Elizabeth Warren or Tom Perez. Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #53

It won't be. NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #132

Maybe HRC will choose a centrist VP, but Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #133

Only one real choice! yallerdawg Jul 2016 #60

I'm with Her and Her. nt jcgoldie Jul 2016 #73

We can't break with historic precedent! yallerdawg Jul 2016 #74

Ha. Love this framing. tammywammy Jul 2016 #118

Kaine? Vilsack? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #68

Vilsack? Ohferkrissakes Stinky The Clown Jul 2016 #75

A Vilsack pick would confirm many of the worst fears of a Clinton candidacy. nt villager Jul 2016 #77

So would a Kaine pick. n/t Chan790 Jul 2016 #99

where is Julian Castro on that "short list?" n/t chillfactor Jul 2016 #78

Right where he belongs. Chan790 Jul 2016 #100

Awww, I was really hoping it would be Xavier Becerra! lunamagica Jul 2016 #79

Gee xavier becerra DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #82

If so, hoping for a Tom or a Tim. Donald Ian Rankin Jul 2016 #83

can the VP hold more than one executive position? andym Jul 2016 #85

How are Kaine's debate skills, and is he a good orator? Native Jul 2016 #86

He's boring as hell. I can't think why he'd be picked. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #87

If this is true, I'm glad that Castro is no longer being considered. BlueStater Jul 2016 #88

Yesterday's Mother Jones article says Castro Hortensis Jul 2016 #102

My money is on Sherrod Don Draper Jul 2016 #91

me, too. Brown is a cool guy and I think a good guy. He seems pretty progressive, IIRC... CTyankee Jul 2016 #135

Dammit, the one name I wanted to see dropped from the longer list to this short list is there still. Chan790 Jul 2016 #95

Corey Booker? floppyboo Jul 2016 #122

No, I wanted to see Kaine removed from consideration. Chan790 Jul 2016 #128

NO to Kaine MFM008 Jul 2016 #101

She messed up not keeping Franken. He is the best one IMO. nt Logical Jul 2016 #103

Does he have any skeletons from his SNL days? I know that was quite a party scene. Metric System Jul 2016 #107

Good question. nt Logical Jul 2016 #108

I'm sure the Reps would run an ad with old footage of Stuart Smalley LiberalLovinLug Jul 2016 #136

My bet is Clinton picking Warren. n/t Matt_R Jul 2016 #110

I don't remember gogo_du Jul 2016 #111

In 2004, I was interested in who John Kerry's VP choice would be Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #116

It definitely will not be Brown because John Kasich.... jg10003 Jul 2016 #112

I hope it's Elizabeth Warren. backscatter712 Jul 2016 #113

Neither Kaine nor Vilsack bring anythink exciting to the table except that they widen the divide Vote2016 Jul 2016 #117

Three who should also be on the list: EffieBlack Jul 2016 #119

Elizabeth Warren would best serve Democratic interests by remaining in the Senate INdemo Jul 2016 #120

I remember what Vilsack did to Shirley Sherrod...not sure I like the idea of him as VP. DemocraticWing Jul 2016 #121

Yes, the only thing Tom Vilsack did as Ag Secretary Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #127

Still wish Al Franken was on her list. mentalsolstice Jul 2016 #126

Though Brown could help deliver OH, Mendocino Jul 2016 #129

Just saw Jonathon Capehart (Clinton Surrogate) on AM Joy on MSNBC sangfroid Jul 2016 #131

I simply don't believe CNN BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #134

I think these are good choices. IrishEyes Jul 2016 #137

I wonder where Castro went. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #138

Isn't Vilsack the almost veep every four years? Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #139

This message was self-deleted by its author Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #140

My strong preference is Senator Warren. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #141

Interesting choices. PatrickforO Jul 2016 #142

The pick will be in response to the flamingdem Jul 2016 #144

I sinerely hope Elizebeth Warren stays in the Senate and President Clinton hands her the baton ... marble falls Jul 2016 #145