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2016 Postmortem

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ericson00

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Sun Jul 10, 2016, 01:56 AM Jul 2016

Dems vote against meddling in Israel settlements dispute [View all]

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/07/09/politics/democratic-platform-israel-palestine-hillary-clinton-bernie-sanders/

Hillary Clinton supporters rejected an effort Saturday to add a call for "an end to occupations and illegal settlements" in Palestinian territories into the Democratic platform.

Clinton's backers argued that the current language in the party's platform, calling for negotiations for a two-state solution in Israel to give Palestinians a homeland, are enough and that going further would inflame tensions and undercut U.S. diplomats' ability to lead future negotiations.
But Bernie Sanders' supporters -- as well as dozens of young people in the crowd in an Orlando hotel ballroom for the Democratic National Committee's platform drafting committee's two-day meeting -- said the language they'd proposed simply repeated a position Clinton herself has taken in the past.


GOOD! Fact is the American people stand with Israel and throwing them under the bus would only help Trump. The settlements are a red-herring; the Palestinian Arabs had been making war against the Jewish State since before 1967.

It would also have been disasterous to look like the party was throwing an ally in the fight against Islamist terrorism under the bus when Trump's numbers on the issue are a little strong for a guy with no experience.

Its also great that the platform trashes BDS; I think now is the time for the party to curb the anti-Israel sentiment that has been rising since 2003, once and for all. Too many people erroneously tried to blame the mythical "Israel lobby" for the Iraq War, which does seem to be where the dislike emanates, even tho the idea that the "Israel Lobby" brought about the war is a faulty premise.

Now that Hillary has given the party free public education, $15 min wage, any voter who would still stay home over the Palestinians probably shouldn't vote.
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If only we hadn't "meddled" in Iraq, Libya, Syria. spud_demon Jul 2016 #1
What's a few international laws, anyway? Scootaloo Jul 2016 #2
well given the kind of countries that get the chance to be on the Human Rights councils, ericson00 Jul 2016 #3
I was talking about international law. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #4
the same "international law" influenced by bodies and members ericson00 Jul 2016 #6
Why the scare quotes? it's international law. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #11
Disappointing, but not surprising TubbersUK Jul 2016 #5
if you want Hillary to win, you should be happy ericson00 Jul 2016 #7
Will you quit acting as if "Standing with Israel" HAS to mean defending the settlements Ken Burch Jul 2016 #12
Israel will deal with settlements when the Palestinian deal with peace. See Egypt. ericson00 Jul 2016 #15
Actually, Israel had almost no settlements in the Sinai. They basically left the place alone. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #18
Same argument Republicans made for apartheid AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #16
Non-Jews and Jews serve in the same chamber of the same parliamentary body in Israel. ericson00 Jul 2016 #17
Gutless Night Watchman Jul 2016 #8
Funny how a position of the winning candidate should be placed in the party platform. Jitter65 Jul 2016 #9
exactly. Hillary is possibly the most gracious primary winner ever seen ericson00 Jul 2016 #10
Best to have no mention of foreign countries nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #13
Politically it's sticky. Israel should, of course, end the illegal occupation and the DanTex Jul 2016 #14
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