2016 Postmortem

casperthegm

(643 posts)

62. Ugh

Mon Jul 11, 2016, 08:00 AM

Jul 2016

Come on, I could give a rats ass about the Green party. This thread started by the op was about the Green party, so it led me to ask about their platform, so we could compare and contrast vs the Democratic party. You can't tell me that the Dems platform is so perfect, so flawless, that we can't look around for ideas that we like and might want to take on, make our own, or tweak in some way? If not, that smacks of arrogance/ignorance.

My point, just to be clear; Discussion about the Democratic party platform. Both the pros and cons. A genuine conversation, where we don't all have to be cheerleaders, but can point out what we feel are flaws. With fear of being branded traitors to the the cause and having posts banned. Why this is either frowned upon or seen as anti-Democratic party is beyond me. I think most people on this board are here because they are well informed political junkies, yet the responses are so defensive, so anti-critical thinking...

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Green Party Nominee Jill Stein Invites Bernie Sanders To Take Over Ticket [View all] caquillo Jul 2016 OP

He won't and she's an idiot if she thinks he wull La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #1

Will. Can't edit on phone La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2016 #2

You are correct, he won't. You are also correct, that she is an idiot for thinking he will. silvershadow Jul 2016 #9

By her account, Sanders had never returned any Hortensis Jul 2016 #27

Agreed. Bernie has made a positive impact within the Democratic party, and will continue to do so. still_one Jul 2016 #82

I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't think it for a minute MH1 Jul 2016 #40

If Sander's supporters would vote green with him on the ticket anoNY42 Jul 2016 #3

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #31

Don't forget that to many Sanders supporters, keeping Trump out of the White House is job one. forest444 Jul 2016 #78

lol, Jill Stein nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #4

You know he's not going to do that. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #5

Actually, I'm not so sure caquillo Jul 2016 #15

I'm certain you are sure, actually. Scootaloo Jul 2016 #19

Kick & REC!!!!!!!!! still_one Jul 2016 #84

well if he endorses next week MFM008 Jul 2016 #30

The Greens still won't learn the lesson RandySF Jul 2016 #6

This. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #14

+1000s DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #54

The Greens are a microcosm of what's wrong with a lot of the "Left". forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #66

Been saying that for years. They have good ideas, and they could, if they tried.... Hekate Jul 2016 #72

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #7

Silliness. Senator Sanders is not going to do that. MineralMan Jul 2016 #8

agreed eom benny05 Jul 2016 #17

+1! BlueMTexpat Jul 2016 #53

In my opinion she would have done better than Sanders had she run as a Dem. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #10

No, she's a nobody who's never been elected to any relevant office. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #12

She barely got appointed ward councilor in her hometown ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #33

Self-evident. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #37

platform differences casperthegm Jul 2016 #11

Who give a roll through the donuts? This isn't Third-Party Underground. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #38

You know, I made a comment earlier about the lack of critical thinking casperthegm Jul 2016 #39

I won't level a thinly vieled personal attack at you, as you've done here with me. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #42

God forbid there should be any actual discussion of actual issues Armstead Jul 2016 #44

Good morning Armstead! Nice to see you. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #47

7 a.m. on a Sunday morning...unhhhhh Armstead Jul 2016 #48

Right? What the hell? It's a sickness. I am long afflicted, and yet Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #49

Discussing Jill Stein is a waste of time. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #52

Disagree casperthegm Jul 2016 #57

No one even remembers what the party platform was in past election years. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #64

Well, last I checked - and it's been quite awhile, so I could be wrong: MH1 Jul 2016 #41

How about ifthe Dems were to actually agree with many of those goals....though not the means? Armstead Jul 2016 #45

Thank you casperthegm Jul 2016 #56

You are just dreadfully easy to see through here. "But Bernie . . . . + let's 'talk' about the Green Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #69

If I'm easy to see through then you are simply transparent casperthegm Jul 2016 #71

Gosh golly goodness, supporting Democrats on Democratic Underground!?! Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #91

^^^^ this nolawarlock Jul 2016 #89

Greens Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #50

Electabilty. If you like Trump, you should vote for Stein. FSogol Jul 2016 #58

Yes, yes, we all get it; a vote for anyone else is a vote for Trump casperthegm Jul 2016 #60

"I'm not saying the Democratic party is bad and we should look elsewhere." That's exactly what you FSogol Jul 2016 #61

Ugh casperthegm Jul 2016 #62

There's some strange stuff there, like not allowing Puerto Ricans in the military to be deployed Chathamization Jul 2016 #63

Of course not. I expect Sen Sanders will keep his word. auntpurl Jul 2016 #13

Its not hers to give LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #16

Exactly! rusty fender Jul 2016 #68

Perennial loser Jill Stein is a joke, but a bad one. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #18

LOL!!! zappaman Jul 2016 #20

next up: Canadian Football League team offers Cam Newton backup QB job nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #21

She is doing nothing but helping Donald Trump get elected. Sanders should invite her to join Jitter65 Jul 2016 #22

No, the Democratic tent fights to keep people like her out.... Armstead Jul 2016 #46

No there is no room in the political spectrum for third party spoilers. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #65

We learned that lesson in AZ the hard way 30 years ago, and got Ev Mecham (nt) LongtimeAZDem Jul 2016 #87

I am not familiar with that situation Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #90

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #23

And Trump in the White House Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #24

IOW: Jill Stein says something outrageous in order to make headlines, so that she's not forgotten. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #25

Ever Lying Stein onehandle Jul 2016 #26

Jill Stein is a stirrer of shit n/t DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #28

This is just a stunt to pick up some hardcore bernie or busters and improve her standings in polls. SaschaHM Jul 2016 #29

There's a vaccine for that ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2016 #32

Ha! That's a good one. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #36

LULz Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #34

Stein is such a feckless idiot. Of course Sanders will have nothing to do with her. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #35

The two-party structure CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #43

He'd be a Fool if He Did So Night Watchman Jul 2016 #51

So if Ms. Stein has such confidence in Senator Sanders thucythucy Jul 2016 #55

So do the Green Party voters have no say? treestar Jul 2016 #59

Yeah, I think the Green Party held primaries too. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #80

No, no one believes he will. Orsino Jul 2016 #67

Jill Stein - Folk/Rock Star MineralMan Jul 2016 #70

Meanwhile, Reality has invited Jill Stein to return whenever she feels comfortable doing so. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #73

I believe (and fervently hope) he is too wise to do anything that stupid. Furthermore, tblue37 Jul 2016 #74

Huh. Interesting. Barack_America Jul 2016 #75

Bernie won't go there. This cake is baked... eom Purveyor Jul 2016 #76

Anyone who doesn't know I wanted Bernie to be the nominee (tho I thought that unlikely), just merrily Jul 2016 #77

The Green Party wants to be a major national party but they have no idea how. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #81

I don't necessarily agree that the best way to become a national party is to start with local or merrily Jul 2016 #83

Bernie will continue to not even give her the time of day. And rightly so. Lord Magus Jul 2016 #79

And who is Jill Stein to offer up the nomination? brooklynite Jul 2016 #85

Her party is only on the ballot in 21 states....how smart is that, Historic NY Jul 2016 #86

The timing is perfect, because it makes the Greens look even more irrelevant. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #88