2016 Postmortem

bettyellen

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67. Sneaky.

Reply to TheProgressive (Reply #63)

Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:21 PM

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The candidacy of Jill Stein makes a mockery of our democratic system [View all] CajunBlazer Jul 2016 OP

at least Gary Johnson was a governor dlwickham Jul 2016 #1

Which makes him infinitely more qualified CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #2

I served in my college's student senate dlwickham Jul 2016 #4

What was your position on "school spirit"? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #15

The requirements are yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #27

No, millions of people meet the constitutional requirements to be President CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #53

I think I would make an excellent president. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #152

I think so too yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #153

Awesone!... you can be my running mate yeoman! hahaha InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #162

I'm pretty sure you only posted this to try to get people to defend Stein Ken Burch Jul 2016 #3

"baiting" seems to be the main enjoyment for some posters, still, rather than discussion... villager Jul 2016 #5

.that^ 840high Jul 2016 #6

I don't think anyone DU is that stupid; why would you assume they are? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #7

Given what you have posted in the past, this is par for the course AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #11

You are entitled to your opinion CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #17

How about dissuading them by making a positive case for OUR nominee? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #23

How I choose to dissuade them is up to me CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #54

It's sad that your approach to politics is purely negative and destructive. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #59

Get a grip, if you haven't noticed, politics is a nasty business CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #60

And it doesn't become better because of attitudes like yours. hobbit709 Jul 2016 #108

You're intitled to your opinion CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #112

How about if you want to do that, you should go ahead and do that. This OP is raising a legitimate Squinch Jul 2016 #114

If I was trying to censor, I'd alert on the thread. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #133

Oh, great. Another "when did you stop beating your wife?" post. The hallmark of bad faith. Squinch Jul 2016 #134

Why are you so afraid of others pointing out what an incompetent loon Stein is? Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #148

Stein is a GE candidate- and I had no idea her record was so pathetic.... bettyellen Jul 2016 #19

Nobody here is going to do that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #90

I don't see it as a trap, and there still are people here who bettyellen Jul 2016 #96

And we can also point out how dismally unqualified she is. Again, if you want to have a thread Squinch Jul 2016 #115

And some folks just need to have enemies AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #136

And one of the purposes of DU is to give information about the qualifications of opposing Squinch Jul 2016 #156

She is a non threat in the GE AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #135

Not in this election, but Greens want to be spoilers more than they want to build anything. bettyellen Jul 2016 #138

I will never understand the obsession AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #139

Don't understand why the run, or why people vote for them. I love a good mystery. bettyellen Jul 2016 #140

I think they run because the USA is a Democracy AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #141

Why don't they do any real party building or find serious candidates? bettyellen Jul 2016 #144

I would surmise that it's not an easy thing in an extremely polarized two party system AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #146

It's not just you skepticscott Jul 2016 #166

Primaries? I'm sorry, what primary was Stein in again? Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #147

Any candidate or party that makes protection cheapdate Jul 2016 #73

Small minds talk about people. Exilednight Jul 2016 #106

Exactly. Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #127

This! jack_krass Jul 2016 #194

Pretty obvious. Nt Freethinker65 Jul 2016 #10

Not everything is a conspiracy. DanTex Jul 2016 #34

You'd know, since you did the same the other day MirrorAshes Jul 2016 #51

All I did there was to try to stop attacks on a person who didn't deserve them. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #93

Totally agree! Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #77

So telling the truth about a opposing candidate is now flame bait.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #102

Sorry won't play Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #118

Plays perfectly for me CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #120

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No, DU is what it has always been: CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #110

WTF??? Now we aren't allowed to say Jill Stein is unqualified? Guess what? SHE ISN'T QUALIFIED! Squinch Jul 2016 #113

She's also not GOING to be president...so what is the point? Ken Burch Jul 2016 #130

People have the right to criticize the opposition candidate whether you think it is productive Squinch Jul 2016 #131

Yes, people have that right. Other people equally have the right Ken Burch Jul 2016 #132

If people are convinced to vote for her skepticscott Jul 2016 #167

If they ARE convinced to vote for her, what's the point of attacking them Ken Burch Jul 2016 #180

Who said anything about "demonizing" skepticscott Jul 2016 #184

How come it's fine for Jill and her supporters to insult Hillary pnwmom Jul 2016 #170

It's not "fine" for Green voters to do that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #179

There is a difference between justified criticism of Jill and going "scorched earth." pnwmom Jul 2016 #182

This should not turn into an excuse to go after Bernie...he has nothing to do with that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #183

It's not an excuse, it's a fact. Jill is trying to draw Bernie's supporters pnwmom Jul 2016 #185

We can explain that our platform is better and that Bernie's campaign made a difference. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #188

So now that Bernie endorsed you decided to go this route? AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #8

Bernie's out; line up the next hippie to punch yodermon Jul 2016 #9

Well played Silver_Witch Jul 2016 #80

Bernie is a hippie? He had made over $100k a year for 20 years Jill is a hippie? stevenleser Jul 2016 #186

Jill Stein is an idiot. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #12

Probably, but so are the people that support her. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #151

She meets all of the qualifications required Duckhunter935 Jul 2016 #13

She may have meet the constituational requirements, but she still is not qualified. CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #20

There are NO requirements like political office to run for president yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #29

Did I mention REQUIREMENTS to run for President? NO!!! CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #76

Someone needs to go back and take another civics class CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #78

What qualifications do you have to judge? GeorgeGist Jul 2016 #44

Common sense - though apparently that isn't a common trait CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #79

In a Democracy we all have the right to judge. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #187

I'm curious, exactly what NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #150

I have some hairs in my shower drain if you'd like to split those dlwickham Jul 2016 #75

Let's not spread the names of... SaschaHM Jul 2016 #14

And let's not do OP's that are nothing but an excuse to try to bait people Ken Burch Jul 2016 #16

OPs against Stein are just as fair game as OPs against Trump. SaschaHM Jul 2016 #18

They should be on the issues and her possible effects on the chances of beating Trump. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #21

Readiness and qualifications for the job is an issue when it comes to electing a president. SaschaHM Jul 2016 #24

Nobody actually thinks Stein is going to get elected...even her supporters don't think that. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #26

These are not personal attacks CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #35

IT's a personal attack AgingAmerican Jul 2016 #137

Yup it sure is about what you have done isn't it.... Avalon Sparks Jul 2016 #91

A candidate's issues don't mean crap if she is totally unqualified for the office. CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #31

OPs that confuse 'conscience' with 'conscious' are discredited and deserve OnlyTheGood Jul 2016 #41

Posters who dwell on spelling mistakes apparently.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #82

Oh, you spelled the word perfectly. But you used it OnlyTheGood Jul 2016 #126

Ken Burch, do you feel baited? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #22

Not personally. And attacks on Trump's competence are actually worth making: Ken Burch Jul 2016 #28

If they don't think she cand win - theirs is a throw away vote, a protest vote CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #37

Which is why THAT's the case we should be making: Ken Burch Jul 2016 #43

So you don't think a candidate's qualifications matter? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #48

If the candidate has a chance of winning, they matter. If not, they don't. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #49

So it is okay if a candidate is not qualified if she doesn't have a chance to win CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #83

Let's not let our paranoia prevent us from making legitimate posts criticising opposing candidates. Squinch Jul 2016 #116

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I see what you did there... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #30

so did I. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #65

So did the administrators CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #84

Post hide? sheshe2 Jul 2016 #89

+1 tk2kewl Jul 2016 #52

Bernie Sanders is a professional politician. TwilightZone Jul 2016 #72

I think just the opposite. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #32

The only reason anyone knows anything about Jill Stein is because... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #45

Stein is an opponent of the Democratic Party and therefore fair game mwrguy Jul 2016 #33

But she knows the purity codex by heart, and can recite it perfectly on cue. BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #36

I would make the Perfect presidential candidate... SaschaHM Jul 2016 #40

+1 nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #42

She is also a clueless human being. I saw an interview where she described quantitative DanTex Jul 2016 #38

You should review the difference between 'conscious' and 'conscience' before you post again. - nt OnlyTheGood Jul 2016 #39

You should try to find something more important than spelling mistakes in posts CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #46

LOL at 'spelling mistake'. Whatever you have to tell yourself, but spelling OnlyTheGood Jul 2016 #125

Being rude to the OP this way is unnecessary! Her Sister Jul 2016 #161

No, the constitution is quite clear on the requirements to hold the office. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #47

Sure, she is 35 or older and is a national born citizen CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #50

Actually, you said it "makes a mockery of our democratic system" Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #55

Well maybe that was a bit overboard CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #57

Bernie Sanders sure didnt do her any favors by endorsing Hillary at the same time she was begging Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #58

You're right about that.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #61

Her name is not Hillary Clinton redStateBlueHeart Jul 2016 #56

Jill Stein will effectively sign the death warrent of the Green Party.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #62

"I guess anyone, even the grossly unqualified, can run for President of the United States" TheProgressive Jul 2016 #63

Sneaky. bettyellen Jul 2016 #67

Not anyone who ran for the Democratic nomination. CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #85

Sounds more qualified than Don the Con. nt 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #64

Just be glad they don't have a more credible candidate TheFarseer Jul 2016 #66

Johnson got 1% in 2012 TwilightZone Jul 2016 #70

Yeah neither has been a huge factor TheFarseer Jul 2016 #71

Actually he got triple the votes Johnson got - Stein got 0.36% of the total vote CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #86

no it doesn't retrowire Jul 2016 #68

That's total fucking bullshit. It's exactly the American way. If you're worried about Jill Stein ... ThePhilosopher04 Jul 2016 #69

I guess I have a major fucking problem CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #87

Then let's make sure they DON'T do that... Ken Burch Jul 2016 #92

Again, I am not bashing Stein on a personal level CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #119

The best tactic with the Green candidate would simply be to not pay ANY attention to her. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #128

Let's not pretend what we say here on DU will affect the election CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #163

You should probably start a movement to change the type of "Democracy" we have in America NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #160

Not Sure How colsohlibgal Jul 2016 #74

If a dumb relative agreed with everything you said, would you vote for him... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #88

People would take the Greens more seriously if they had a real candidate. DemocraticWing Jul 2016 #81

I think you have it backwards adigal Jul 2016 #94

Shameful at DU? rbrnmw Jul 2016 #107

did Pat Paulsen make a mockery of our democratic system? hobbit709 Jul 2016 #95

Perhaps...but then, he MEANT to make a mockery of it. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #97

How does Jill Stein make this point better than Trump? Stein is underqualified but has a great Vote2016 Jul 2016 #98

People ARE voting for her! She got 0.36% in 2012! struggle4progress Jul 2016 #99

With a little luck, she'll get 0.72% in 2016. DinahMoeHum Jul 2016 #101

Assuming she picks up 0.36% in every election cycle, she's a shoo-on for 2568! struggle4progress Jul 2016 #123

Anybody know how many state ballots the Green Party made? Funtatlaguy Jul 2016 #103

No, the Libertarian, Ayn Rand, party is ONLY on 35 state ballots. fasttense Jul 2016 #109

I heard about 20 so far? Wasted vote bettyellen Jul 2016 #117

Whatever her qualifications jcgoldie Jul 2016 #104

This entire election cycle has made a mockery of the American people and the system. peace13 Jul 2016 #105

Actually, things like the electoral college and Super Delegates and Super PACs are NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #111

Trying to change the subject again? CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #173

No, just stating an obvious truth. -nt- NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #174

Well, my OP was the obvious truth CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #175

Unqualified? Yes. A mockery of US democracy? Nah. Every 4 years a whole bunch of men.... Hekate Jul 2016 #121

No it doesn't. Like her or hate her, her candidacy is democracy in action nt riderinthestorm Jul 2016 #122

She's no more of a mockery than Trump. Vinca Jul 2016 #124

True, they are both mockeries to our system of government CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #172

Whatever. JEB Jul 2016 #129

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I disagree with your premise mythology Jul 2016 #143

I totally agree that Trump is not qualified to be President CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #171

Jill Stein is qualified to be the president cosmicone Jul 2016 #145

Sorry, but I have to wonder NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #154

Jill was a medical student and an intern cosmicone Jul 2016 #155

Okay, that's enough. Iggo Jul 2016 #149

I will never understand the hate for the progressive green party. JRLeft Jul 2016 #157

I don't hate the Green Party CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #169

She won't Hillary will win. JRLeft Jul 2016 #177

The moment their 2000 candidate accepted GOP money to help defeat the Democratic stevenleser Jul 2016 #190

it can certainly be difficult to accept the basic premise that all things being equal, any American LanternWaste Jul 2016 #158

So you are you calling me and oddball... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #168

Since when do Democrats consider folks running for public office to represent a "mockery" NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #159

The OP is referring specifically to her running for president skepticscott Jul 2016 #165

Jill Stein is a medical woo-wooer as well skepticscott Jul 2016 #164

I don't agree. David__77 Jul 2016 #176

When you don't want liberals voting in Dem Primaries... HooptieWagon Jul 2016 #178

It's simple for anyone to vote Dem. Registration is easy and FREE. And it's pnwmom Jul 2016 #189

Still a far better choice than Trump. Motown_Johnny Jul 2016 #181

I don't agree. Someone opposite in ideology winning isn't the worst outcome stevenleser Jul 2016 #191

Those who voted for Sanders in the primaries are not going to vote for Trump.... CajunBlazer Jul 2016 #192

K & R SunSeeker Jul 2016 #193

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