2016 Postmortem

farmboy

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17. Wow. What a misread! I don't think someone more to the left than "centrist" would be ...

Thu Jul 14, 2016, 11:03 AM

Jul 2016

Clinton "moving away" from herself. I have argued regularly during the primaries that Hillary is more progressive than many think. And I don't think picking some more left than "centrist" or "moderate" would be stupid or show Hillary to be such. Hillary is incredibly intelligent. I'm sorry you imply that if she does choose a progressive that she would do so stupidly. I very much disagree.

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Imagine "Dem Base Says 'BLAH' To Clinton VP Pick" or "Polls Show Clinton Choice Boring" YIKES [View all] farmboy Jul 2016 OP

I completely disagree ... There is no (electoral) "game" that needs to be "changed". 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1

+1, this. I wanted someone who could run in 8 years but VP choices JRLeft Jul 2016 #8

Vice Presidents have a pretty poor record at later being elected President, John Poet Jul 2016 #50

gore won. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #89

Exactly mcar Jul 2016 #56

But the pick can certainly damage her prospects. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #57

Perhaps mcar Jul 2016 #58

No. I don't. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Chan790 Jul 2016 #62

I suspect your thought is a minority opinion, like your "read" of her "unity overture". 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Chan790 Jul 2016 #66

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #68

+ 1,000 Recs! rusty fender Jul 2016 #92

you have a couple of threads started about your serious concerns for Hillary's VP pick Sheepshank Jul 2016 #2

Good point. I changed wording. Don't won't to mislead. I'm sincerely worried about this vp choice. farmboy Jul 2016 #12

Don't agree Happyhippychick Jul 2016 #3

VP is like the tee-shot on the last hole of a golf tournament. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #4

No. Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #26

yeah. I think Palin went a long way to sinking McCain. Adrahil Jul 2016 #45

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Tom Eagleton. John Poet Jul 2016 #51

I don't think she needs to "change the game." Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #5

This choice will have an impact positive or negative. It will matter this year especially. farmboy Jul 2016 #13

Because Trump's choice is going to be such a shock to all. stopbush Jul 2016 #6

I think she can afford to play it safe... Orsino Jul 2016 #7

if the person that handily won the primaries is a centrist, why should they pick anything else? tonyt53 Jul 2016 #9

Wow. What a misread! I don't think someone more to the left than "centrist" would be ... farmboy Jul 2016 #17

As do I. +1 for your reply. villager Jul 2016 #55

Obama's "I'm winning" bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #10

I know, huh. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #19

I remember a Yahoo news article in 2008 RandySF Jul 2016 #11

I remember corporate media saying in 2008 that Senator Obama won't win Iliyah Jul 2016 #16

She had that "Talk Me Down" segment on her show. RandySF Jul 2016 #24

The Concernacopia continues to overflow! BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #14

If you are referring to me, then you are mistaken. Hillary's been my #1 since before she announced. farmboy Jul 2016 #18

Oh, sure, I bet. Look how actively you've supported her... BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #22

Well, I'll be sure not to rely on you for accurate judgement of others, since you are wrong about me farmboy Jul 2016 #36

Byeeee! BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #46

VP Pick NCTraveler Jul 2016 #15

Unless it electrifyies the base long term! Which it can. Why miss that opportunity? farmboy Jul 2016 #21

If you haven't noticed the base is solidly on board. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #25

Base needs to be on board for more than voting. It takes a lot of work and energy by volunteers. farmboy Jul 2016 #41

How many were at the Biden campaign stop you went to? NCTraveler Jul 2016 #48

Hillary will NOT nominate a figure OBVIOUSLY from the progressive wing of the party cloudythescribbler Jul 2016 #20

Accurate analysis. And it explains why I didn't vote for her in the primary. (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #23

If by accurate you mean innacurate and full of Hillary hate realmirage Jul 2016 #33

Yep puffy socks Jul 2016 #84

Yeah, no kidding. Probably listening to Sydney Blumenthal, David Brock, John Poet Jul 2016 #54

For many it won't be how "boring" the choice is, but rather how "progressive" the choice is. NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #27

Bernie Sanders just gave her his endorsement oberliner Jul 2016 #30

Your point being? -nt- NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #31

The VP choice doesn't really matter all that much oberliner Jul 2016 #35

In most election climates you may be correct, but to not NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #38

Interesting analysis oberliner Jul 2016 #40

No I do not NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #43

Warren is good at getting under Donald's skin though oberliner Jul 2016 #44

This is the perfect election scenario possible NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #49

I think she should meet with David Bonior and see what he is up to these days. nt Snotcicles Jul 2016 #91

Clinton will not pick.... Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #28

It will be Tim Kaine or Tom Vilsack oberliner Jul 2016 #29

I doubt it okasha Jul 2016 #74

Obama chose Biden oberliner Jul 2016 #75

Obama and Biden was not a white on rice ticket... The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #76

I don't know this expression oberliner Jul 2016 #79

Not my expression; the poster in #74 used it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #80

Got it now oberliner Jul 2016 #81

Take another look at the Prez. okasha Jul 2016 #77

LOL, Did you advise McCain to make a gutsy decision and appeal to his base by picking Palin? FSogol Jul 2016 #32

Hell no! And none of our mentioned candidates come remotely close to that abysmal choice! farmboy Jul 2016 #37

Aren't you promoting excitement? FSogol Jul 2016 #39

If you need explanation of the difference in what Palin brought and what I'm advocating for, sad. farmboy Jul 2016 #42

Your concern is duly noted. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #34

OK. You saw Kaine. NOW do you see what I mean??? The answer is crystal clear, served on a platter... farmboy Jul 2016 #47

Kaine had his audition today... Expecting Rain Jul 2016 #53

Dem base? They're the ones who got Clinton the nomination wyldwolf Jul 2016 #52

+1 JoePhilly Jul 2016 #59

Note from Dem base: okasha Jul 2016 #67

I'm not excited to vote for HRC because I'm to her left. Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #83

I'm to her left, too. okasha Jul 2016 #86

Really? SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #61

No, not "America's biggest concern" but exciting/inspirational is important in an candidate. farmboy Jul 2016 #69

Basing your vote on whether you are thrilled to pieces is immature and has nothing to do with SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #70

You're doing it again. Just because you say something ("thrilled to pieces") doesn't mean I said it. farmboy Jul 2016 #71

He just used another term puffy socks Jul 2016 #85

Different terms mean different things. Bullying? Yeah. You're doing it to. Argue the point. farmboy Jul 2016 #87

U had nothing but insults to throw out puffy socks Jul 2016 #90

It won't happen--whoever she names as her VP will be nominated. book_worm Jul 2016 #64

If she picks a moderate white place holder who won't overshadow her, you won't have to your Vote2016 Jul 2016 #72

Sorry, but you are SO WRONG. They vote for prez, not the VP. This isn't a happy dance game. It's RBInMaine Jul 2016 #73

You just hate progressives, RBinMaine. (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #88

Bullshit! rusty fender Jul 2016 #93

You're trying pretty hard with this so-called enthusiasm gap towards Clinton's vp pick. brush Jul 2016 #78

VP choice rarely has any influence on the race. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #82