2016 Postmortem

rusty fender

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Fri Jul 15, 2016, 02:01 PM

Jul 2016

Kaine is a horrible choice. This is Hillary's last chance to be POTUS. She has to pull out all the stops, and that is why she has to go with Warren.

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Imagine "Dem Base Says 'BLAH' To Clinton VP Pick" or "Polls Show Clinton Choice Boring" YIKES [View all] farmboy Jul 2016 OP

I completely disagree ... There is no (electoral) "game" that needs to be "changed". 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1

+1, this. I wanted someone who could run in 8 years but VP choices JRLeft Jul 2016 #8

Vice Presidents have a pretty poor record at later being elected President, John Poet Jul 2016 #50

gore won. pansypoo53219 Jul 2016 #89

Exactly mcar Jul 2016 #56

But the pick can certainly damage her prospects. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #57

Perhaps mcar Jul 2016 #58

No. I don't. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #60

This message was self-deleted by its author Chan790 Jul 2016 #62

I suspect your thought is a minority opinion, like your "read" of her "unity overture". 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #65

This message was self-deleted by its author Chan790 Jul 2016 #66

Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #68

+ 1,000 Recs! rusty fender Jul 2016 #92

you have a couple of threads started about your serious concerns for Hillary's VP pick Sheepshank Jul 2016 #2

Good point. I changed wording. Don't won't to mislead. I'm sincerely worried about this vp choice. farmboy Jul 2016 #12

Don't agree Happyhippychick Jul 2016 #3

VP is like the tee-shot on the last hole of a golf tournament. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #4

No. Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #26

yeah. I think Palin went a long way to sinking McCain. Adrahil Jul 2016 #45

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Tom Eagleton. John Poet Jul 2016 #51

I don't think she needs to "change the game." Still In Wisconsin Jul 2016 #5

This choice will have an impact positive or negative. It will matter this year especially. farmboy Jul 2016 #13

Because Trump's choice is going to be such a shock to all. stopbush Jul 2016 #6

I think she can afford to play it safe... Orsino Jul 2016 #7

if the person that handily won the primaries is a centrist, why should they pick anything else? tonyt53 Jul 2016 #9

Wow. What a misread! I don't think someone more to the left than "centrist" would be ... farmboy Jul 2016 #17

As do I. +1 for your reply. villager Jul 2016 #55

Obama's "I'm winning" bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #10

I know, huh. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #19

I remember a Yahoo news article in 2008 RandySF Jul 2016 #11

I remember corporate media saying in 2008 that Senator Obama won't win Iliyah Jul 2016 #16

She had that "Talk Me Down" segment on her show. RandySF Jul 2016 #24

The Concernacopia continues to overflow! BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #14

If you are referring to me, then you are mistaken. Hillary's been my #1 since before she announced. farmboy Jul 2016 #18

Oh, sure, I bet. Look how actively you've supported her... BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #22

Well, I'll be sure not to rely on you for accurate judgement of others, since you are wrong about me farmboy Jul 2016 #36

Byeeee! BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #46

VP Pick NCTraveler Jul 2016 #15

Unless it electrifyies the base long term! Which it can. Why miss that opportunity? farmboy Jul 2016 #21

If you haven't noticed the base is solidly on board. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #25

Base needs to be on board for more than voting. It takes a lot of work and energy by volunteers. farmboy Jul 2016 #41

How many were at the Biden campaign stop you went to? NCTraveler Jul 2016 #48

Hillary will NOT nominate a figure OBVIOUSLY from the progressive wing of the party cloudythescribbler Jul 2016 #20

Accurate analysis. And it explains why I didn't vote for her in the primary. (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #23

If by accurate you mean innacurate and full of Hillary hate realmirage Jul 2016 #33

Yep puffy socks Jul 2016 #84

Yeah, no kidding. Probably listening to Sydney Blumenthal, David Brock, John Poet Jul 2016 #54

For many it won't be how "boring" the choice is, but rather how "progressive" the choice is. NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #27

Bernie Sanders just gave her his endorsement oberliner Jul 2016 #30

Your point being? -nt- NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #31

The VP choice doesn't really matter all that much oberliner Jul 2016 #35

In most election climates you may be correct, but to not NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #38

Interesting analysis oberliner Jul 2016 #40

No I do not NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #43

Warren is good at getting under Donald's skin though oberliner Jul 2016 #44

This is the perfect election scenario possible NorthCarolina Jul 2016 #49

I think she should meet with David Bonior and see what he is up to these days. nt Snotcicles Jul 2016 #91

Clinton will not pick.... Democrats Ascendant Jul 2016 #28

It will be Tim Kaine or Tom Vilsack oberliner Jul 2016 #29

I doubt it okasha Jul 2016 #74

Obama chose Biden oberliner Jul 2016 #75

Obama and Biden was not a white on rice ticket... The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #76

I don't know this expression oberliner Jul 2016 #79

Not my expression; the poster in #74 used it. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2016 #80

Got it now oberliner Jul 2016 #81

Take another look at the Prez. okasha Jul 2016 #77

LOL, Did you advise McCain to make a gutsy decision and appeal to his base by picking Palin? FSogol Jul 2016 #32

Hell no! And none of our mentioned candidates come remotely close to that abysmal choice! farmboy Jul 2016 #37

Aren't you promoting excitement? FSogol Jul 2016 #39

If you need explanation of the difference in what Palin brought and what I'm advocating for, sad. farmboy Jul 2016 #42

Your concern is duly noted. eom MohRokTah Jul 2016 #34

OK. You saw Kaine. NOW do you see what I mean??? The answer is crystal clear, served on a platter... farmboy Jul 2016 #47

Kaine had his audition today... Expecting Rain Jul 2016 #53

Dem base? They're the ones who got Clinton the nomination wyldwolf Jul 2016 #52

+1 JoePhilly Jul 2016 #59

Note from Dem base: okasha Jul 2016 #67

I'm not excited to vote for HRC because I'm to her left. Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #83

I'm to her left, too. okasha Jul 2016 #86

Really? SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #61

No, not "America's biggest concern" but exciting/inspirational is important in an candidate. farmboy Jul 2016 #69

Basing your vote on whether you are thrilled to pieces is immature and has nothing to do with SkeleTim1968 Jul 2016 #70

You're doing it again. Just because you say something ("thrilled to pieces") doesn't mean I said it. farmboy Jul 2016 #71

He just used another term puffy socks Jul 2016 #85

Different terms mean different things. Bullying? Yeah. You're doing it to. Argue the point. farmboy Jul 2016 #87

U had nothing but insults to throw out puffy socks Jul 2016 #90

It won't happen--whoever she names as her VP will be nominated. book_worm Jul 2016 #64

If she picks a moderate white place holder who won't overshadow her, you won't have to your Vote2016 Jul 2016 #72

Sorry, but you are SO WRONG. They vote for prez, not the VP. This isn't a happy dance game. It's RBInMaine Jul 2016 #73

You just hate progressives, RBinMaine. (nt) w4rma Jul 2016 #88

Bullshit! rusty fender Jul 2016 #93

You're trying pretty hard with this so-called enthusiasm gap towards Clinton's vp pick. brush Jul 2016 #78

VP choice rarely has any influence on the race. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #82