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DemocraticWing

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111. Jill Stein's a moron, but I don't like what Savage said.
Thu Jul 21, 2016, 06:55 PM
Jul 2016

She does have supporters who are people of color or from other non-privileged groups, and I think pretending that minority leftists don't exist is something that we've had enough of this year.

I think if I was voting along on who best supported social justice, then maybe Stein's position gets there...but she mixes in too much nonsense and comes across as an idiot when talking. Throw in the fact that she has no chance and it's not a hard choice.

Don't really care for the guy, but on this matter i agree 100%. He nailed it. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #1
He really did! Haveadream Jul 2016 #2
What issues does he not pass muster on? Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #8
In the past he has been tone deaf on some LBTQ issues Haveadream Jul 2016 #12
Actually, he got it 99% right. GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #122
Not that good. He called Greens "liberals," Hortensis Jul 2016 #129
So, if Greens aren't liberal, what are they? GoCubsGo Jul 2016 #137
My main point is Green does not mean liberal. Hortensis Jul 2016 #138
Plus, Jill Stein is about as detestable a person as a progressive can be. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #3
"But I want that President to reflect the values of being a mother" - Stein LynneSin Jul 2016 #37
Between that and her celebration of Juneteenth with a room full of white people - lost all respect seaglass Jul 2016 #48
I can't stand any of them. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #80
Omg! She did that? LynneSin Jul 2016 #83
I end up grocery shopping with her quite often... Agschmid Jul 2016 #128
That made me turn against her, too RockaFowler Jul 2016 #109
Are we sure Jill Stein isn't a Ralph Nader clone? GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #142
How so? nt SylviaD Jul 2016 #45
Those comments about motherhood the other reply mentioned, for one. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #58
You may be right but... SylviaD Jul 2016 #100
That could be. As a politician, she shows the worst traits of a Trump, with a cleaner mouth. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #101
Yep, well said! Her Sister Jul 2016 #4
Dan Savage hits another home run. (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #5
Well said Mr. Savage JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #6
Brought me out of out of hibernation, this OP! freshwest Jul 2016 #46
Missed you! In_The_Wind Jul 2016 #120
He could have summed it up with one sentence: sufrommich Jul 2016 #7
Great point, sufrommich! Haveadream Jul 2016 #9
Alfred said it best NWCorona Jul 2016 #11
How easy is it to watch the world burn from within our 'fire-safe house' LynneSin Jul 2016 #39
Well, to be fair, large numbers of POC do Hortensis Jul 2016 #130
TOTALLY true, sufrommich. calimary Jul 2016 #65
Amen, mostly cause "their" world wont be burn the hottest uponit7771 Jul 2016 #115
Vote your conscience, Dan. bigwillq Jul 2016 #10
I will be and that is why I am voting for Hillary. hrmjustin Jul 2016 #13
Awesome! bigwillq Jul 2016 #16
Likewise. okasha Jul 2016 #114
Ted Cruz sure is. lol. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #14
Best thing Cruz ever said. bigwillq Jul 2016 #17
Ted Cruz is with her! Haveadream Jul 2016 #19
Tell me about it Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #33
That is truly sad. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #40
Lot of extremist intellect scrambling in that sphere. Hortensis Jul 2016 #131
And if your conscience doesn't give a damn about frazzled Jul 2016 #18
+1! Isn't it odd seeing "vote your conscience" being used as cover for not doing the right thing? BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #23
The Greens or Libertarians or any other third party bigwillq Jul 2016 #31
I've been jumpy Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #34
I don't believe Nader was the reason Gore "lost" bigwillq Jul 2016 #43
You are correct. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #70
Nader lowered Gores vote by taking votes Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #88
Gore did win but Nader made it possible for Bush to steal the election.He was a part of allowing kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #125
The Greens and Nader are the reason for Gore's loss. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #87
Corget Florida. Look at New Hampshire. Old and In the Way Jul 2016 #126
Some people must think this is a movie... one_voice Jul 2016 #27
Except that for so many, the common good is part and parcel of that inconvenient "damned conscience" LanternWaste Jul 2016 #35
No ... frazzled Jul 2016 #41
+1 nt Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #84
+1 n/t Silent3 Jul 2016 #136
I will. I'll be voting for Hilary and a straight dem ticket..... BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #44
That's awesome. bigwillq Jul 2016 #49
If you have a conscience, you will vote for Hillary. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #82
If you don't live in a swing state TexasBushwhacker Jul 2016 #144
Why won't the Greens put effort into local government? RandySF Jul 2016 #15
They want to complain, not be in charge. If they're in charge, they'd have to BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #20
Stein certainly fits that description Haveadream Jul 2016 #28
They actually do that. redwitch Jul 2016 #36
They were doing that for a while Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #38
+1, It takes way less effort to complain than to actually be "progress" uponit7771 Jul 2016 #116
K&R! sarae Jul 2016 #21
He's 100% correct about the Stein supporters liberalnarb Jul 2016 #22
I agree Haveadream Jul 2016 #25
^. nt BlancheSplanchnik Jul 2016 #47
Dan Savage should be confident CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #24
Uh huh. grossproffit Jul 2016 #127
Foaming bull excrement. The Green party doesn't exist to vote for Democrats. Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #139
At this point: Cool story, bro. GoneOffShore Jul 2016 #143
Jill Stein has even less minority support than Bernie and Trump. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #26
In the 2008 primary, did you vote for Obama for solidarity? NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #79
Both O and HRC had huge minority support. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #95
In Pennsylvania Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #98
I hate this "X group knows better than you do!" nonsense XemaSab Jul 2016 #123
Jill Stein is a white-privileged ass Tarc Jul 2016 #29
does seem that way, plus just a weaselly opportunist Fast Walker 52 Jul 2016 #55
Dan Savage is an affluent white man. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #89
Dan Savage is gay, the type of person that the GOP base wants to either Tarc Jul 2016 #119
Dan Savage is gay, and would roar with laughter at being called "wealthy" obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #133
And an anti vaxxer obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #132
Ew, really? Tarc Jul 2016 #134
Dan Savage moves on.. we all must. mountain grammy Jul 2016 #30
Cornel West isn't pasty white spanzini Jul 2016 #32
There was an African American speaker at the RNC too. Using outliers to try to prove your point stevenleser Jul 2016 #51
One guy Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #91
is this the same D. Savage who claimed those who opposed the illegal invasion of Iraq TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 #42
So your argument is he was wrong about one thing once so he can never be right even when its obvious stevenleser Jul 2016 #52
Keep up those Trumpian tactics, you savvy strategists! TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 #57
Calling what I said "Trumpian" doesn't mean anything. nt stevenleser Jul 2016 #66
He wasn't even wrong. His point was that inaction can be worse than action under BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #107
Hooray anoNY42 Jul 2016 #50
And you just articulated the privileged argument perfectly. stevenleser Jul 2016 #53
Bingo tonyt53 Jul 2016 #60
which Dan Savage is absolutely reinforcing with his angry screed TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 #61
He is correct and yes he might make some stop Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #96
Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #73
Amen and Amen!!! uponit7771 Jul 2016 #117
And in the real world... whatthehey Jul 2016 #62
another brilliant bit of persuasion! TheSarcastinator Jul 2016 #63
"Potential allies" will vote for the better future. Idiots will throw away that privilege. whatthehey Jul 2016 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author anoNY42 Jul 2016 #74
Not convincing me anoNY42 Jul 2016 #85
Yawn anoNY42 Jul 2016 #72
I'm wedded to the reality in which the US *has* a two party system, not dreaming of what-ifs whatthehey Jul 2016 #77
You talk of changing the system anoNY42 Jul 2016 #78
See post 68 whatthehey Jul 2016 #81
DUers are generally wedded to the Democratic Party Haveadream Jul 2016 #105
How fucking embarrassing, that Trump has even a fraction of a chance of winning arcane1 Jul 2016 #54
That's easy to answer. The Republicans spend years beating up the most prominent Democrats stevenleser Jul 2016 #56
I also have friends blaming Dems for what the Republicans do! Delusional. bettyellen Jul 2016 #110
Just saw your response. Hard for me to attend anything these days. stevenleser Jul 2016 #121
Even more embarrassing and dangerous are the number of Americans who actively support Trump Haveadream Jul 2016 #102
What a pathetic country we are. arcane1 Jul 2016 #103
Dan Savage is spot on! HuckleB Jul 2016 #59
Something tells me "Pheasant" isn't suffering from much in life. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #64
DAN Skippy! MrScorpio Jul 2016 #67
lol!!!! Haveadream Jul 2016 #71
Savage nailed it. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #69
We really do NOT want either of 'em anywhere NEAR DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #94
He sure is. Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #141
Kick and rec! zappaman Jul 2016 #75
Race baiting by a white man. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #76
Truth telling, not race baiting. KMOD Jul 2016 #90
Berniecrat = Democrat who supports Sanders. NT Eric J in MN Jul 2016 #93
Bullshit X 1000. n/t Downtown Hound Jul 2016 #97
Facts say different uponit7771 Jul 2016 #118
Part right, part wrong kwolf68 Jul 2016 #86
K&R....Excellent article Cali_Democrat Jul 2016 #92
Stein and the Greens today are as deluded thucythucy Jul 2016 #99
This This This obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #135
I was a YUGE Bernie fan, but ChairmanAgnostic Jul 2016 #104
I am so ready DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #106
Dan should go lick her doorknobs and coffee cups mwrguy Jul 2016 #108
Jill Stein's a moron, but I don't like what Savage said. DemocraticWing Jul 2016 #111
I think pretending we don't live in the real world Haveadream Jul 2016 #113
But but greiner3 Jul 2016 #112
He's right Butterflies Jul 2016 #124
Thank you Dan Ellen Forradalom Jul 2016 #140
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