2016 Postmortem

Bluenorthwest

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7. He was adamantly anti gay until about 20 minutes ago, anyone who describes him as

Fri Jul 22, 2016, 03:01 PM

Jul 2016

progressive is a person who defines progressive as inclusive of bigotry. Any politician who had attacked any other minority group as Kaine has LGBT would be driven out of this Party, but anti gay bigots get rewarded.

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The progressive case for Tim Kaine as VP [View all] LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 OP

Great read! tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #1

The "Hard Sell" is indicative of a poor selection. If he were solid, pressure would not be required. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #58

Wrong. There are many here who would disparage anyone who wasn't their first choice. pnwmom Jul 2016 #67

Outside of the Democratic bubble, this will prove to be a questionable choice. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #69

LOL. pnwmom Jul 2016 #73

ROFLMAO TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #75

I'm not trying to pose as a teenager here. n/t pnwmom Jul 2016 #78

Wait, what? I'm already behind the times?? Beartracks Jul 2016 #84

outside of the politically obsessed bubble, this will prove a great choice Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #85

Another insult to Bernie supporters Craig234 Jul 2016 #87

Hillary is not attacking anyone. Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #89

My post had nothing to do with anything Hillary said Craig234 Jul 2016 #92

"Third, it's bad politics for Hillary to be attacking the 40-something percent of Democrats" Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #93

Thanks for catching my error in that post Craig234 Jul 2016 #94

THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #101

Then Craig234 Jul 2016 #102

The primaries are over!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #113

Then post that to the peerson making primary attacks, not the person criticizng them!!!!!!!! Craig234 Jul 2016 #114

THE PRIMARIES ARE OVER!!!!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2016 #115

You type that - now learn it an stop just being obnoxious Craig234 Jul 2016 #116

Don't worry about "any kind" of lefty stuff... raindaddy Jul 2016 #100

That article can't be right. annavictorious Jul 2016 #2

You clearly have not accessed your Inner Concern. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #5

As Governor Kaine signed into law the Marshall-Newman Amendment, which defined Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #10

This is what The Advocate says about him LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #14

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+1 iandhr Jul 2016 #17

Please LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #18

I'm just pointing out that Sanders was "anti-gay" in similar ways to Kaine, annavictorious Jul 2016 #21

He also supported the TPP and deregulating Wall street and the Big banks bjobotts Jul 2016 #23

TPP is dead annavictorious Jul 2016 #26

TPP is not dead. Obama has teed it up very well for a possible passing in the lame duck session. FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #48

Literally nothing is going to pass in a lame-duck session. Arkana Jul 2016 #61

Seriously? You think that is not possible? Where HAVE YOU BEEN?! FighttheFuture Jul 2016 #118

Concerns about TPP are not "an excuse not to vote for the Democratic nominee" Craig234 Jul 2016 #90

Not exactly LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #28

But you're harshing the narrative with these facts! annavictorious Jul 2016 #33

Exactly. We want to win people over to our side of the issue stopbush Jul 2016 #80

Total lie. That became law by being ratified by the Citizens of VA. It was FSogol Jul 2016 #108

#8 - yet AGAIN - FALSE! It was a voter initiative which the governor did not sign csziggy Jul 2016 #117

Thanks - the author was a big Bernie supporter fwiw n/t OKNancy Jul 2016 #3

Good stuff. Skinner Jul 2016 #4

K&R ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #6

He was adamantly anti gay until about 20 minutes ago, anyone who describes him as Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #7

He has a 90% rating from the Human Rights Campaign ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #19

That's not true, and you don't get to define words for others. annavictorious Jul 2016 #24

that's not true Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #86

K&R. Thank you. NYC Liberal Jul 2016 #8

As a former Virginian and a progressive, I don't think he is terrible democrattotheend Jul 2016 #9

But compared to Warren or Sen Merkley or Sherrod Brown. Keep in mind this VP will become president bjobotts Jul 2016 #25

"Keep in mind that this VP will become president" annavictorious Jul 2016 #32

Who says this VP will become president some day? democrattotheend Jul 2016 #36

Really? He'll be President one day? Arkana Jul 2016 #62

Exactly. Well said. n/t TonyPDX Jul 2016 #105

Certainly an interesting read... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #11

Thanks for opening my eyes a bit.. mountain grammy Jul 2016 #12

Great read! Thanks! MoonRiver Jul 2016 #13

Thanks for that! Pacifist Patriot Jul 2016 #16

Maybe I have just gone along with the assumptions about him Doctor Jack Jul 2016 #20

The Democratic case against him Capt. Obvious Jul 2016 #22

Look deeper, my friend. So many issues NOT mentioned in the article. Read the accompanying comments farmboy Jul 2016 #27

Read my response above about his "anti big-bank regulations" LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #29

First, I know absolutely nothing about "The Intercept" as a "news source"... Miles Archer Jul 2016 #30

"the way Kaine won in Virginia" I was a part of that underpants Jul 2016 #31

Interesting ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #34

Article Schmarticle, I know his record. He's as far to the right as a Dem can get and still be Dem. Zen Democrat Jul 2016 #35

So... LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #39

Absolutely not even close obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #72

Yeah. Let's not read and learn. Jakes Progress Jul 2016 #82

He acts counter to Clinton's stated public positions angrychair Jul 2016 #37

You are cherry picking LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #40

No, I'm not angrychair Jul 2016 #44

I never mentioned TPP LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #46

You didn't mention TPP, I did angrychair Jul 2016 #47

He's a good Democrat LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #51

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Don't forget that Tim Kaine is a big supporter of right to work legislation Don Draper Jul 2016 #41

That's a huge strech LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #45

Well, that makes me feel better. Hissyspit Jul 2016 #49

It was already the law when he became governor LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #50

Tim Kaine himself said that he is a strong Don Draper Jul 2016 #111

OK, so he's not awful on everything. lark Jul 2016 #42

Tim Kaine on the issues IronLionZion Jul 2016 #43

My problem with that reference page is that it cites nothing newer than 2012. Ford_Prefect Jul 2016 #52

It has items from 2013, 2014, and 2015 IronLionZion Jul 2016 #59

Thanks for posting that! NastyRiffraff Jul 2016 #53

Tim Kaine receives an F with NORML. B Calm Jul 2016 #54

On my list of "give a shit" issues weed is way down the list. Arkana Jul 2016 #63

It's not way down on my list Craig234 Jul 2016 #88

Marijuana reform is now on the Democratic platform. B Calm Jul 2016 #97

Thanks for the link. Here's another: TonyPDX Jul 2016 #103

Pretty middle ofnthe ground position... Doesn't Desrve an f uponit7771 Jul 2016 #98

I look forward SCantiGOP Jul 2016 #55

tim "war on drugs" kaine? HR_Pufnstuf Jul 2016 #56

Last election we were supposed to hate Blue Dogs. Ikonoklast Jul 2016 #57

There are many diehard Democrats here who (like myself) happen to be moderates. Grey Lemercier Jul 2016 #91

If you like restricting access for humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #60

Kaine is pro-choice. He received a 100% rating from NARAL. Arkana Jul 2016 #64

He morally opposes abortion.... his words... humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #65

His words: "the last thing we need is government intruding into those personal decisions." pnwmom Jul 2016 #71

So what? Arkana Jul 2016 #76

Supports Hyde amendment.. humbled_opinion Jul 2016 #66

His own words ismnotwasm Jul 2016 #68

"Previously" is the operative word. He supports the 2016 party platform, and the anti-abortion crowd pnwmom Jul 2016 #77

Wrong. He's pro-choice. He doesn't believe government should play a role in that decision. pnwmom Jul 2016 #70

100% wrong -- he has 100% rating from NARAL obamanut2012 Jul 2016 #74

Love listening to Amy Klobuchar oswaldactedalone Jul 2016 #79

Until recently, Kaine was my senator, too. MBS Jul 2016 #81

If VA is dark blue Johnny2X2X Jul 2016 #83

Hey, what's more progressive than deregulating banks? Scuba Jul 2016 #95

It's a good question. CobaltBlue Jul 2016 #99

Did you read the other comments in this thread LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #104

Why what is a fallacy? Scuba Jul 2016 #106

That Kaine is for bank deregulation. LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #107

Well, yeah, in those cases. But as of July 20, 2016 ... Scuba Jul 2016 #109

What I typed out to you LoverOfLiberty Jul 2016 #110

If "Progressives" cannot get fired up by the prospect of a Wigged Oompa Loompa, then perhaps they OnDoutside Jul 2016 #96

k and r niyad Jul 2016 #112