2016 Postmortem

CrowCityDem

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1. There's no quantifiable evidence that Warren, or anyone else, brings huge benefits either. VPs don't

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Tim Kaine Wouldn�t Do Much To Help Clinton Win The Election [View all] joshcryer Jul 2016 OP

There's no quantifiable evidence that Warren, or anyone else, brings huge benefits either. VPs don't CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #1

Trump is not going to win MA, and EW has no executive experience and is still a fresh face in the MADem Jul 2016 #4

I like EW. joshcryer Jul 2016 #7

I wouldn't mind a bit if she was the pick. It might still happen (long shot, though, I think). MADem Jul 2016 #13

I figure it's Kaine for what it's worth. joshcryer Jul 2016 #17

You don't want two women on the ticket? runaway hero Jul 2016 #24

And take the risk that Charlie Baker will run for Warren's seat himself? MADem Jul 2016 #27

but the history! :) runaway hero Jul 2016 #47

LOL--I'll bet Mitt wishes he'd gone to the Senate for a bit! nt MADem Jul 2016 #49

For sure. runaway hero Jul 2016 #50

Just posting the article. joshcryer Jul 2016 #5

Are you kidding? YOHABLO Jul 2016 #8

I think Warren is an important voice and a great Senator....but we don't need someone to reach out Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #10

Bernie as the VP pick would bring ENORMOUS benefits... assuming he would even accept the VP slot. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2016 #34

He would also let Trump spend three months talking about Socialism. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #37

You betcha. More more to fear for the already afraid. The bad part is, he would have lots of ammo. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #38

I agree... chillfactor Jul 2016 #2

The need to perform a "Hard Sell" is indicative of a poor selection, and only introduces risks. TheBlackAdder Jul 2016 #56

No one from Florida is available exboyfil Jul 2016 #3

Fair argument. joshcryer Jul 2016 #6

Will the Spanish fluency help in Florida? exboyfil Jul 2016 #9

It will help from sea to shining sea. nt MADem Jul 2016 #16

Possibly. I was shocked at his Spanish ability. joshcryer Jul 2016 #18

BTW, Julian Castro's biggest failing was not knowing Spanish. joshcryer Jul 2016 #35

Kaine will play throughout the Mid-Atlantic...you sew up VA and NC... Joe the Revelator Jul 2016 #12

Help in NC would be great exboyfil Jul 2016 #20

He has other pluses, too--he is very personable. MADem Jul 2016 #51

Yep Cosmocat Jul 2016 #11

he is exactly like Pence Cosmocat Jul 2016 #14

Not at all like Pence. underpants Jul 2016 #28

Exactly like Pence Cosmocat Jul 2016 #31

Pence doesn't speak Spanish. nt MADem Jul 2016 #46

Pence is an arrogant, extremist right wing dogma type Cosmocat Jul 2016 #52

There's a whole world of voters who watch Univision and Telemundo and MADem Jul 2016 #53

I'm feeling you Cosmocat Jul 2016 #54

It's one thing to get them to vote, it's another thing to make them WANT to vote. MADem Jul 2016 #57

On the flip side, he won't cause her to lose democrattotheend Jul 2016 #15

Warren would help with small donor fundraising and recruiting volunteers.nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #19

Warren would let me sleep at night... joshcryer Jul 2016 #21

that crowd has already written her off geek tragedy Jul 2016 #25

I know. joshcryer Jul 2016 #29

But the majority in both contests didn't vote for populists. The majority of the country is with H. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #32

The question is where the persuadeable and unlikely voters are who could be won over. nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #33

History would say in the middle. Swing voters are a bigger group than Green-types. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #36

slightly different rules this time. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #41

No Dem could, or should, appeal to Trump's racist fans. CrowCityDem Jul 2016 #44

if Trump gets every racist white person, he'll win nt geek tragedy Jul 2016 #48

if the single state argument held DonCoquixote Jul 2016 #22

Can't lose the Senate seat exboyfil Jul 2016 #26

He might help pull in a few white male votes Nevernose Jul 2016 #23

No one knows... jamese777 Jul 2016 #30

I kind of doubt she would. She knows where she can do the most good. Smart lady. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #40

I keep asking, but exactly what do people think a VP can do? tonyt53 Jul 2016 #39

Wouldn't help much. Wouldn't hurt much. Kinda bland, all in all. Buns_of_Fire Jul 2016 #42

Tom Vilsack would help in Iowa where the race is closer. Maybe a little in Pennsylvania StevieM Jul 2016 #43

Few VP's do--but he could guarantee her the swing state of Virginia book_worm Jul 2016 #45

So if she picks him whatthehey Jul 2016 #55