2016 Postmortem

SpareribSP

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50. I don't appreciate the leaps of logic.

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 09:42 AM

Jul 2016

It's very hard to try and have a conversation when you start framing things as "we expect women to be servile, apologetic, and self-effacing, and men to be strong, firm, and self-confident?" I don't think Bernie is perfect either, but this question was about Hillary. If you want two examples of Bernie apologizing immediately: DNC data breach, and the unfortunate remarks of that one speaker in New York. However, I'm not really interested in a fight here over Bernie, it's not constructive.

I think the apology issue is hard to frame here, I am having trouble putting it in the right words.

I know that my post at the bottom there is borderline which is why I highly qualified it. I'm an open-minded guy, if you have something that could help me change my mind on those points I'd definitely listen. I don't want to lie about how I feel, hence why I posted this in the first place.

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Is there any room here for someone who will vote for Hillary, but [View all] SpareribSP Jul 2016 OP

It honestly depends upon DemonGoddess Jul 2016 #1

THIS!!!! SDANation Jul 2016 #6

Many of us have developed our own views, thank you very much randr Jul 2016 #53

THIS ^ (eom) Shankapotomus Jul 2016 #34

I have suspected this for some time. apnu Jul 2016 #40

Welcome SDANation Jul 2016 #2

I do largely agree with her on the issues. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #15

It's very interesting athena Jul 2016 #33

AND Hillary has often apologized, has often admitted when she was wrong. Squinch Jul 2016 #37

I don't appreciate the leaps of logic. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #50

So all the people endorsing her lack judgement? betsuni Jul 2016 #36

I say please post and share your ideas on the PRG page demwing Jul 2016 #3

Of course there is room for you here. Welcome to DU!! StevieM Jul 2016 #4

I am reserving some judgement... SpareribSP Jul 2016 #24

Keep an open mind, Maru Kitteh Jul 2016 #5

Will do. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #25

She'll have four years to either convert or confirm. I suggest she come out of the gate flying Snotcicles Jul 2016 #48

If you have kids or a family, think about what kind of world you want them to live in RonniePudding Jul 2016 #7

I'm a younger guy! SpareribSP Jul 2016 #16

that's a good start RonniePudding Jul 2016 #19

I think we all welcome anyone who wants to improve the party instead of destroying it. LonePirate Jul 2016 #8

Room? Karen_J Jul 2016 #9

Obama was my 2nd choice. I was not a terribly happy camper but I got over it. MADem Jul 2016 #10

As long as you will vote for her I have no problem. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #11

There's always has been. RandySF Jul 2016 #12

There are many of us here who support change from within The empressof all Jul 2016 #13

This is pretty much how I feel, and I'm glad it's a shared view. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #26

Best response I've heard all morning. tecelote Jul 2016 #30

Of course. Almost no Hillary voter will agree with her on every single issue. Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #14

Her position is to overturn Citizens United still_one Jul 2016 #18

I know. My position is the same as the ACLU's which is to support the decision (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2016 #21

Whoah... Loki Liesmith Jul 2016 #23

We are all on the same side. That is, most of us want to improve the Democratic party still_one Jul 2016 #17

Yes, find the Brand New Congress groups relayerbob Jul 2016 #20

Yes. There are many of us that will vote for Hillary OhioBlue Jul 2016 #22

Plenty of room, but never forget that... TreasonousBastard Jul 2016 #27

Absolutely. Ken Burch Jul 2016 #28

All real change happens in congress. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #29

I'm with you.ive been here over 10 years and I feel as you do. aikoaiko Jul 2016 #31

Follow the rules & be welcome. baldguy Jul 2016 #32

I'm torn. MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #35

Cool story bro. nt LexVegas Jul 2016 #38

I'm here with you. cyberpunk Jul 2016 #39

To Someone Like You RobinA Jul 2016 #41

Just a bit frustrating when there are multiple speakers at the DNC who you'd much rather prefer. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #51

Just happy you're voting for Hillary. I have voted a few times for people I wasn't entirely enthused kerry-is-my-prez Jul 2016 #42

Something is missing in a lot of people's calculus in this election. Squinch Jul 2016 #43

Is there any room here? Sort of. Jim Lane Jul 2016 #44

We can stand in the same corner. GreenPartyVoter Jul 2016 #45

THREE WORDS yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #46

One of the big reasons why it's insane not to vote for Hillary, absolutely. SpareribSP Jul 2016 #52

You will fit right in with me. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #47

Looking back to 2008 PatSeg Jul 2016 #49

"vote for Hillary, handmade34 Jul 2016 #54

List of accomplishments Motley13 Jul 2016 #55

This should be no different than 2004, 2008 and 2012 karynnj Jul 2016 #56