2016 Postmortem

highprincipleswork

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33. Unity? Surrender on your own terms is what you want, I guess. How about a little give and take?

Tue Jul 26, 2016, 11:06 AM

Jul 2016

You don't get to dictate what other people do. And if you'd like them on your side, in the end, it would be good to have a little mutual understanding.

That's what apparently has been happening between Clinton and Sanders camps, and I applaud it. The man earned almost half the vote, and under difficult circumstances.

I thought, in balance, yesterday was a wonderful coming together, despite the glitches. Hope the convention continues to be an inspiring, uniting, uplifting event.

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Why didn't Sanders release his delegates? [View all] sufrommich Jul 2016 OP

What good would that do? democrattotheend Jul 2016 #1

It's going to create more drama and divisiveness. That's why sufrommich Jul 2016 #3

Right.. speaktruthtopower Jul 2016 #7

In this case, I think not having a roll call would do more harm than good democrattotheend Jul 2016 #21

we have to fret because nothing Sanders does is ever good enough for DU. After Bernie's merrily Jul 2016 #37

Bernie was great last night. He is going to work hard for the GE, including tblue37 Jul 2016 #38

Sure, but this morning, he's a problem again. It never gets old, either. merrily Jul 2016 #40

++ cyberpunk Jul 2016 #71

I don't think so...having bad behavior during a roll call would be worse. NT Demsrule86 Jul 2016 #46

It would show he's a good sport and a team player, instead of Lil Missy Jul 2016 #65

He asked for a roll call vote and it was granted. leftofcool Jul 2016 #2

Yep. Letting them vote at the party's convention makes them Democrats... Orsino Jul 2016 #55

Hope springs eternal. MoonRiver Jul 2016 #4

Clinton is still going to be the nominee regardless. bigwillq Jul 2016 #5

I don't see the harm, his delegates need to see geek tragedy Jul 2016 #6

Hillary stopped the roll call vote in 2008 in the spirit of unity. sufrommich Jul 2016 #9

He may do the same thing tonight. geek tragedy Jul 2016 #13

Doing what Hillary did in 2008 might backfire democrattotheend Jul 2016 #23

Probably. As I noted above, the need to see the vote geek tragedy Jul 2016 #27

Precisely. nt tblue37 Jul 2016 #39

I think it is being done to honor Sanders, and then avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #8

This. n/t backscatter712 Jul 2016 #17

Let his delegates have their vote. That's the way the process should work. scheming daemons Jul 2016 #10

I think it will be New York. nt sufrommich Jul 2016 #12

I think she'll want a "swing state" to have the honor. PA, FL, OH, MI, VA, or NC scheming daemons Jul 2016 #15

I wonder why Hillary was not HONORED in this way 2008? fun n serious Jul 2016 #11

She didn't want it. Unity was more important than sufrommich Jul 2016 #14

Priorities vs vanities. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #20

It isn't divisive. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #29

I don't remember her needing to be cradled like this.... fun n serious Jul 2016 #59

It isn't cradling. It is a small gesture. avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #61

I don't think Hillary is the one who is crying,, fun n serious Jul 2016 #63

It was her choice. She decided to be the good soldier. scheming daemons Jul 2016 #16

She was democrattotheend Jul 2016 #70

Post removed Post removed Jul 2016 #18

It behooves us all for the Sanders delegates to see that they are part of the selection process and Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #19

Except a few are in a fantasy world where they don't realize it is over... bettyellen Jul 2016 #22

This is part of the process to bring them from that fantasy world to the real world. Those few who Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #31

If you're merely Dem- curious, you should learn before making the leap to delegate? Just a thought. bettyellen Jul 2016 #73

Sometimes the newly converted have the most fervor Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #74

I don't think delegates should be dabbling a bit. bettyellen Jul 2016 #75

Democracy is not always predictable. The Republican nominee is a bit of a dabbler Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #76

Hear ye. Those young folks are the future of the party avaistheone1 Jul 2016 #25

I agree with you democrattotheend Jul 2016 #26

Do you understand why Hillary stopped the roll call halfway through it? sufrommich Jul 2016 #28

But she's a Democrat bluedye33139 Jul 2016 #32

BINGO. auntpurl Jul 2016 #67

Hillary's '08 supporters WERE the establishment. They did not need to see confirmation that they Attorney in Texas Jul 2016 #34

And yet she was permitted to let that vote roll on to the point that she stopped it. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #41

I find this to be admirable and think it will help bring about closure. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #24

This! Inspired Jul 2016 #78

Because he knows the BoBs won't sit down and shut up kestrel91316 Jul 2016 #30

Unity? Surrender on your own terms is what you want, I guess. How about a little give and take? highprincipleswork Jul 2016 #33

Because he wants to hear his name called out 50 more times frazzled Jul 2016 #35

More importantly, his supporters want to hear it democrattotheend Jul 2016 #45

As Bertolt Brecht wrote frazzled Jul 2016 #52

If he had endorsed a month ago, it would not have helped democrattotheend Jul 2016 #54

You clearly know nothing, pangaia Jul 2016 #60

He realizes he has to let the deadenders have their moment. If he tried to push them tblue37 Jul 2016 #36

Holy Shxt, I can't believe this is even an issue. WTF? floriduck Jul 2016 #42

They are going to raise a ruckus Motley13 Jul 2016 #43

Rumor was, he was going to... Adrahil Jul 2016 #44

I would want to if I were a delegate democrattotheend Jul 2016 #47

Well, I think it's pointless at this point.... Adrahil Jul 2016 #58

He's showboating, letting his supporters cling to the fantasy that they can still win. procon Jul 2016 #48

Nothing he does will ever be good enough for some of you democrattotheend Jul 2016 #49

I know right? 'Unity for thee, but not for me'... PoutrageFatigue Jul 2016 #53

He's a politician. He lost. I don't owe him a thing, yeah? procon Jul 2016 #57

Right now there is a roll call vote scheduled for tonight Gothmog Jul 2016 #50

Vanity and ego. nt BobbyDrake Jul 2016 #51

Sanders supporters need to feel their voices (and their votes) count. Tatiana Jul 2016 #56

One might question the judgement of a candidate demanding yet another vote stopbush Jul 2016 #62

Give them a chance to cast their vote for Sanders. Agnosticsherbet Jul 2016 #64

I am totally fine with the roll call vote. Justice Jul 2016 #66

Enough coddling of these impossible-to-please Sanders people. Paladin Jul 2016 #68

I say let him keep them as a consolation prize MyNameGoesHere Jul 2016 #69

i think because some of his supporters would have not went along JI7 Jul 2016 #72

He's keeping his word. panader0 Jul 2016 #77

It gives the Sanders delegates an opportunity to vote and be part of the process. LonePirate Jul 2016 #79

My guess is that it's to "offset" the Russian hack... VOX Jul 2016 #80

They would allow him to. I think it would have made them even more angry with him. nt glennward Jul 2016 #81

I agree democrattotheend Jul 2016 #82