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2016 Postmortem

In reply to the discussion: The legacy of "The Left" [View all]

Tatiana

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18. The state of California has been taken over and is run by what used to be "The Left."
Thu Jul 28, 2016, 08:48 AM
Jul 2016

And they're doing quite fabulously. Things are so fantastic that they have two Democrats running for a Senate seat. Many of those running California were considered fringe at one time, but now they're quite mainstream in that state. Remember "Governor Moonbeam?"

Some of the people disrupting were certainly out of line and not representative of the Democratic party or Bernie Sanders. However, it saddens me to see the denial of many here -- more than a few of those people protesting ARE Democrats. They are actual members of this party who took an active role at the municipal, county, and state level of Democratic politics. And they've been begging for things like the public option, free tuition, fairer trade deals, etc. for years.

No one listened to them really. They kept voting for Democrats, yet their ideas never seemed to make it to The Platform.

Along comes Bernie Sanders. And he says not only should we be relieving your student debt, we should make sure no one who goes to college has debt arising from tuition. He says college should be free. Hmmm... sounds radical except they do it in many European nations quite successfully.

There was certainly a standard of professional courtesy that should have been extended to some of our speakers. But Panetta needed to hear that there is opposition to warmongering. Our DOD and State Department need to understand that if we make the decision to invade another nation, it damn well better be for a good reason (such as the defense of this country).

The President needed to hear that people strongly oppose TPP. It will certainly lead to the loss of US jobs and we probably will find it even harder to find any stitch of clothing made in America. TPP is a race to the bottom for the American labor force and the President needs to be confronted with that fact because he is accountable to the American public.

The protesters took the best opportunity they would likely ever have to deliver their message and have it heard by others who might also hold the same beliefs. Yes, it looked messy, but I can't be mad at the protesters because ultimately dissent is one of the highest forms of patriotism.

In his famous "Give Me Liberty, or Give Me Death" speech, American Revolutionary Patrick Henry offered these words:

Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason towards my country and of an act of disloyalty towards the majesty of Heaven which I revere above all earthly kings.

Yes, some of the protesters were simply disruptors. But others have a legitimate beef with their governance and expressed it. Just like BLM, it doesn't look pretty because it's not supposed to. The goal is to generate discomfort that leads to actions that address the issue of concern.

We're big enough as Democrats to handle protest. In fact, it should be part of our political DNA.

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The legacy of "The Left" [View all] auntpurl Jul 2016 OP
Wow. Nicely written, Auntpurl. It covers everything. Perfect! NurseJackie Jul 2016 #1
Thank you. auntpurl Jul 2016 #4
Consider this an almost Rec Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #2
I hear you, and I have removed the "liar" part from my OP. auntpurl Jul 2016 #3
Thank you. OK, close enoiugh for a Rec then :) Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #9
Brava auntpurl! rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #5
Well, as I did in my OP, I want to make a distinction auntpurl Jul 2016 #10
Tired of the hippie punching. TDale313 Jul 2016 #6
Oh, brother. NurseJackie Jul 2016 #8
That is literally the opposite of the point I was making. auntpurl Jul 2016 #11
"Hippie punching" forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #25
Well written Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #7
The parliamentary system has its own problems auntpurl Jul 2016 #14
Thanks for your reply Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #16
There are more choices here, and more "viable" choices auntpurl Jul 2016 #19
This is a long article Buckeye_Democrat Jul 2016 #21
They aren't the real left, fortunately. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #12
Whether they are or not (I don't know what's in someone's heart) auntpurl Jul 2016 #17
I don't think they can organize their way out of a paper bag. Starry Messenger Jul 2016 #29
There is some truth in that, but you are WAY overgeneralizing Armstead Jul 2016 #13
The only way I can reply is to say auntpurl Jul 2016 #20
As to your basic point Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #15
It's always a tough question but auntpurl Jul 2016 #22
The state of California has been taken over and is run by what used to be "The Left." Tatiana Jul 2016 #18
Thank you for your reply, great post. auntpurl Jul 2016 #23
I understand your concerns and I think we agree. Tatiana Jul 2016 #30
Yes, we do agree. auntpurl Jul 2016 #35
The new left are not good at organizing and give up too quickly. JaneyVee Jul 2016 #24
I suspect all young people always have felt that way auntpurl Jul 2016 #27
"Hey hey, LBJ, How many kids did you kill today!" Tom Rinaldo Jul 2016 #34
Yeah, pretty much sums it up perfectly. tonyt53 Jul 2016 #26
Thanks nt auntpurl Jul 2016 #32
I think you might like this article forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #28
Yeah, wow, this is amazing. auntpurl Jul 2016 #31
We actually have a model for what coalition politics can do: The "Front Populaire" of the 30s/40s. forjusticethunders Jul 2016 #33
You might need a Hitler to fight against to make people come together like that auntpurl Jul 2016 #36
I think it's silly to worry about them. Orsino Jul 2016 #37
I've been phone-banking for Hillary all afternoon between work auntpurl Jul 2016 #38
I guess it's time tor me to put up... Orsino Jul 2016 #43
What do we want? Gradual incremental change! TransitJohn Jul 2016 #39
"Where are we going?!" "PLANET TEN!!" klook Jul 2016 #46
Here is a fact. The radical fringe started warning you all about Trump decades ago. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #40
Cool, so what you're saying is you are fine with the media's characterization of the left JCanete Jul 2016 #41
I know you're afraid of how the media and voters are viewing the protesters. Avalux Jul 2016 #42
K&R JoePhilly Jul 2016 #44
Hillary supporters-it's time to turn the page. Focus on Trump, he's the real problem. jalan48 Jul 2016 #45
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